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Strangely, about 75% likes this.
75% of people are idiots!!!
how does this dumb excuse of a person think he isn’ t getting free handouts!!!?
this makes me angry!
INAFTER RAGE
Who cares hes getting blown in iraq
Wow. What an ass. You sir. Are an ass.
Dammit! I wanted to say that!
Do you really believe working from 4am to 5pm 5 days a week is getting a free hand out?
How is he getting free handouts?
Take the time to explain it too not just “cuz hes in da army and they is sheep”
Last I checked when you deploy and you’re combat arms, you tend to go into harms way.. hes earned every bit he’s recieved.
Right and Wrong my good sir,
from this photo I can tell this guy doesn’t doesn’t even rank above an E-2. So he barely knows what’s in store for him.
Poor kid is probably going to get deployed into a combat zone under false pretenses where we have no business being in, maybe get injured, won’t get half of what he’s REALLY entitled to for serving, and he will be none the wiser because objective critical thinking has been hammered out of him.THIS is ironic and sad. Poor bastard still a young-blood and probably doesn’t know what’s in store for him.
Cause unlike those baby factories on welfare he’s doing something useful for his money.
Btw is what he’s getting is a hand out then the same goes for the rest of us who are gainfully employed.
Aliens. i mean Asians
i’m in the military and i disagree with him. i work hard and do my 3 jobs as well, and i dont want a hand out. but i dont want rich people getting more rich while people like me cant even get a raise let alone a cost of living increase every year.its not about handouts or free money. its just that those who make tons of money dont bust their ass as near as hard as i do for a mere pittance and i think its unfair.
I agree. Well said.
Right on! Thank you, Kurt.
also we don’t like how governments let corporations get a away with murder,and that ISN’T an exaggeration
http://community.feministing.com/2011/10/19/more-reports-of-cancer-near-koch-brothers-factory/
“How come he gets and I don’t get”
sounds a lot like b!tching to me.
…so they busted their asses long ago and made money?
your where they were at 20.
stop asking for handouts. rich people worked to get rich. get a good well paying job and you can too.
p.s. the military is not that well paying job.
What about the ones who got rich be committing fraud? Did they work hard for it too?
to get a good paying job, you need a decent degree in something, but that’ll give you loans which you can’t pay and no self respecting company will employ a person who can’t afford to pay off their tuition debt. It wouldn’t be a problem if you could get a decent job without the aid of a higher education, but these day’s that’s unlikely. it’s either work at subway or become an astronomer, but which one is cheaper?
This is incorrect. The truth is that almost all technical jobs pay very well and there are lots of job opportunities in technical fields. I can’t speak for other countries, but most people in America, especially young people, have a strong dislike of any technical or mathematical work. Skilled labor jobs such as electricians, plumbers, and mechanics pay a great deal more than most people realize. Also, the training for skilled technical labor is enormously less expensive than any college or university. Our society has come to heavily over-exaggerate the value and importance of going to a college.
I agree with Brian, I am proof that further education in a technical field pays off.
But not having a well-paying job/ getting into the right field isn’t the only reason Americans are broke.
Americans complain that money isn’t flowing into their bank account, even though they work one, sometimes two nine-to-five jobs.
The most common reasons I see why this doesn’t pay off is:
1. They have a deadbeat somewhere in their life that doesn’t have a job and they have to support financially.
2. They have scores of children, or have one on the way and opt out of work.
3. They have all the latest game consoles and a new car.
4. They go out barhopping/ eating out every night.
5. They go out on shopping sprees.
Bottom line, manage your money better.
you don’t get sh*t because you didn’t join the military to bust your ass and get shot at for your country, so the government gives the military a little incentive to do the sh*t we do. you don’t get sh*t because you have done nothing.
But I don’t want to potentially get all my limbs blown off and my mind permanently crippled by trauma just because the government tells me that a particular ethnicity of people are “the bad guys” and “hate us for our freedom”. War is retarded, which is why I don’t believe in having a military as obscenely over-funded as ours (America’s).
did you read his note? he never said he wanted a handout.
richer*
Kurt i agree but to an extent, im in the military as well and i have worked my ass off, work ridiculous hours all days of the week, and have gone months with no days off. BUT some of those rich people actually have earned what they have. We would all love to have money, and let me ask you, if you were rich (not better off or wealthy, but RICH) would you expect to ever lift even a finger? Hell no you would have people lift your fingers for you and make you the money to pay them for it. i don’t so much find it unfair, i find it more along the lines of selfish and greedy. Honestly people like Steve Jobs worth $80 billion?!! What the F*** would anyone do with $80 Billion.The only part i find a LITTLE unfair is that his children (if he has any) get all that money that HE earned, but obviously everyone else would do the same. and its sucks that we have men making s**t for pay and dieing everyday in war and at the same time we have men that play a game and make 100 mill a year, but thats life and complaining does nothing for anyone. People need to suck it the F*** up work hard and hope they are LUCKY enough to make it big.
amen!
Well that’s not really true.
I mean, nothing against the troops or anything, but we don’t get a choice but to support them.
When we’re gainfully employed, we’re usually working with a company that people pay money to willingly and don’t have to pay unwillingly. When people work for the military though, you either pay your taxes (a lot of which goes to them) or men with guns will come and lock you in prison.
It’s not really the same thing.
A business, in which “the rest of us are gainfully employed” makes its money, and thus pays its employees with sales, services, or the like.
The military receives its funding from the government. Yes, he is doing a job, but is being payed by an organization that is unable to support itself. The tax payers make up the “sales and services”. His paycheck, as well as his schooling is being funded by taxpayers. While he is fighting for the government and working hard… He is still considered getting handout because his financial standing is based on the tax payers.
The military falls under the category of taxpayer you are talking about. In essence the military is paying their own salary so it isn’t really a handout.
EPIC FAIL. Apart from the childish rant that Private Nobody has posted, it’s mathematically impossible for the military to pay its own salary. Of all the flag-waving nonsense that gets passed around like the clap, this is the heavyweight champ. The military is the biggest waste of money America has ever endured.
Close all the overseas bases. Bring the troops home and cut them loose. Six months later check how many have found jobs that they wouldn’t wish on their worst enemy. All this tough guy crap is how the 1% keeps people divided. Great job, troop! The payoff is a lifetime of poverty for your children.
apart from your childish response to that man’s epic rant on lazy people, it is impossible for us to pay our own salary, THAT sir should be quite obvious! but we pay just as much as everyone else who does pay taxes. and i can agree with pulling out of afgan and iraq when the time is right. but ALL the overseas bases?!! are you high? or just EXTREMELY ignorant? just a question don’t get all teary eyed now. WITHOUT a US military AND WITHOUT bases overseas, s**t would have already hit the fan! and by s**t i mean America (metaphorically speaking, i F***ing love you America)
Lets say we pulled all our troops out of a little place called Okinawa with some 40,000+ US troops located there. let me educate you real quick do you know what happens if we pulled out of that little island and stopped all the training and relations we have going with all our foreign allies in this region? North Korea starts getting more ballsy than they already are and starts doing crazy s**t. China might want to invade Taiwan who we are sworn allies with. Do you know what happens if we go to war with thoses countries?! THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS DIE! and s#!t, you might even be speaking Chinese afterwords since we would have no allies in this region to help us out.
AND one last thing if we didn’t have a military right now you would be typing in Japanese, or German, or God knows what language. so be F***ING GRATEFUL for what you have. AND BE RESPECTFUL to the men who have died for you to have the sweet life you have right now. You should be F***ing proud to take part in “flag waving nonsense”.
and with a name like Smedley Butler i would guess you are a Marine or former Marine, and shouldn’t be this ignorant. Forgive me if i offend but these are facts, this is the truth.
forgot to add that part of the sentence in there, so there’s the entire thing:
WITHOUT a US military AND WITHOUT bases overseas, s**t would have already hit the fan! and by s**t i mean America (metaphorically speaking, i F***ing love you America) and by fan i mean nukes
and i am an idiot because i said that backwards, maybe i should read things before posting…. meh
we all forgive you your idiocy. that is all.
yeah, you know, that GI Bill is all handouts. Prior to the Democrats pushing the GI Bill down peoples throats, there was no money for college or re-upping for enlistment. You get your salary and your on the job healthcare, and housing for your family while you serve. That’s all you get that isn’t pre-WWII handouts.
But at the same time, he’s serving his country to get those benefits, not sitting on his unemployed ass in front of the TV with a bag of cheetos.
When you WORK for your handouts….they aren’t free. It’s okay that you don’t have a leg to stand on.
That guy is bad for his own economy he’s kinda stupid he must be american
*he must be american*
oh my god……what are you? because it seems like your pretty stupid.
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Because*
you’re*
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You don’t use “because” at the beginning of sentences.
Yeah, and if we were in eighth grade English class, people would care. However, since we’re not, anyone out there with any skill in writing knows that breaking grammar rules can help to drive a point home.
Troll fail.
Actually, you do. People do it everyday. F**k you Grammar Nazi.
And you, sir, just got trolled.
american? stupid? please… youuur stupid..
Why is it o.k. to always say Americans are fat/stupid/lazy? Is this not discrimination you may like me if you met me. Maybe you’d feel bad about hurting my feelings.
Discrimination = treating someone differently than you would otherwise
Example: If i dislike gypsies and refuse to employ/service/whathaveyou them simply because of their ethnicity, that would be discrimination.
And all you have to do to receive that is agree to be willing to die for Government interests that may have no moral standing at all!
Kill people, get money
Agreed.
I’d rather be in student loan debt until I’m 35 than sell my morals for a bunch of eats who couldn’t run a p*ss-up in a brewery.
/clap
Also, you are getting tons of things handed to you.
Yeah, Most people call it a hand out when you work 12 hours a day, five days a week. Also, when you work 24 hours a day, seven days a week for 12 months at a time. Whats the standard work week? 40 hours? Yeah, we’re definitely taking handouts by working double what the average citizen does. Thanks for playing though.
Sometimes the Army goes for 15 months a time, other than that, I agree
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Isn’t most of what the military personnel does just drilling and maintenance/groundskeeping, and maybe some guard duty? I mean sure, you have patrol duty and missions, but those are for the best soldiers. And so many of them are doing maintenance work on machinery, cooking, filing paperwork.
Also, if you’re working 12 hours a day, 5 days a week, that’s a 60 hour work week. Now a lot of single moms and working families are working hours like that, or more, and still can’t afford to raise one or two kids (which is still the current national average) and pay their utilities, groceries, medical needs, transportation. And unlike the military, they don’t move you and your family for free, or give you the PX to buy things at, if you’re a public citizen. The best you get is Walmart and food stamps or WIC, and maybe some help on your utilities. People need to wake up to reality about life in lower-class/working-class America.
You do know that the military only pays 12k a year for an army E-1 (Private)
and that triples when you hit E5 (captain). The military is the lowest paying job ever. I’d like to see someone on that kind of salary who is putting themselves up to be killed move themselves around the world.
e5 isn’t captain, captain is an officer rank so it would be o3 because it is the third officer rank. e5 is sergeant of some kind i’m not sure exactly which one. You also can’t be an officer without a college degree ( Or at least in most cases ).
I’m a firefighter, I risk my life and make very little money. My job is to run into burning buildings, to save what people value most. However, the government decided that Bankers on Wall Street deserve better tax breaks, even though they make 12x what I make. So, yes. This Private is dead wrong. I don’t want handouts, I want justice.
Now a lot of single moms and working families are working hours like that, or more, and still can’t afford to raise one or two kids (which is still the current national average) and pay their utilities, groceries, medical needs, transportation.
Welcome to Europe. Problem solved. Besides, we’d rather have a load of yanks than a load of arabs/africans. You lot are at least part of our genetic and cultural sphere.
^THIS^ ZING!
Pretty much
I wonder if he will feel the same way when his buddies are in danger because the CEO and shareholders of the companies that made his gear wanted massive bonuses and share holder profits over upgrading/improving their equipment with better materials?
Or when his 4 years are up and he realizes the difficult and dangerous mos of being a supplies clerk behind some counter in a base with the strategic importance of curdled milk may have taught him how to be an ignorant trolling twerp, but no other useful life skills. Enjoy your future in fedland.
No, because Colt makes most of the weapons that we use in the armed forces. We don’t usually have any problems with them (the occasional bug, yes, but no more often than any other generic civilian product), but the M16A4 and M1 have a tendency to clog up pretty badly during dust storms or if they get dirty in any other way. But that’s just a design flaw with all ArmaLyte infantry rifles. Light Machine Guns and tactical shotguns (made by different companies) will hold up near 100% of the time.
You made an unfounded, uneducated claim, sir. The character of a CEO varies just as much as the character of each person in the general population does. Which makes sense, because CEOs are…people. Civilians. I would say maybe 2 dozen Fortune 500 CEOs are bad eggs. By that, I mean greedy, selfish, spoiled, rotten. Every other CEO? Just as normal as your next person.
Quit trying to spread your uneducated beliefs to everyone. Because you’ve just proved to me that you pretty much don’t know anything. It would help if you would form your own opinion instead of copying and pasting what your parents say.
cool story, bro, you should tell it at parties
^ Fifteen gold medals for that
Nice argument but trolls like ↑ this one will always use logical falacies like propousely mistake an argument with a story among other retarded tactics just to try to try to be included among the “cool kids”.
The problem is that those 2 dozen CEOs (plus or minus a dozen more) control more wealth and power than every single other person in the United States. That isn’t healthy in any situation, much less a democracy. Before defending a group of people totaling less than 400 that has more wealth than 150 million people, first ask yourself what you consider is worth $1.3 trillion, and then ask yourself if that group of 400 is doing that.
Actually you’re dead wrong. The CEOs are not the ones with the majority of the money. The owners and their families of those companies (or the legacies of their founders) are the ones with the massive wealth, but a CEO is just another hired worker. Do they make a ton more than we do? Sure, they’re being paid for their ability, same as a basketball or football player. Their ability is running a company.
Dude, 1% of America’s population is 3 million people, not 24.
Maybe you should consider that they pay 40% of all taxes (just 1% of the population). The lower 60% pay .5% of all taxes.
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Dr Hax-Supreme Commander of teh Gmod fleet and Cheif Monitor Thrower.
I don’t know if any of the country realizes this anymore but that is COMMUNISM!!
F*ck it just move to China where the people are free
He was talking about body armor, not guns.
Stop reposting everything from 4chan, get your own memes and original content.
True bro story
British soldiers are the real winners though
I dunno, the french army seems pretty appealing. You know exactly how any conflict you’re in is going to end! Your surrender, but it’s the consistency that counts, right?
One of the countries with greatest military history in the world gets violently occupied in two World Wars for being the closest threat to the Germans. Gains permanent stereotype implying that it always surrenders.
300 year old country with massive population and resources and pretty much half a world away from any military threat wins a few wars, fancies itself the country with best military history to ever exist.
u mad, mon frère? why do you give a f**k about stereotypes? i read an article about us germans being obsessed with poop… who cares, every culture/country/ethnic group has to deal with it, being bad at murdering countless people is surely not the worst thing
1st: I’m not French.
2nd: Never heard about Gemans being obsessed with poop.
3rd: Americans always complain about how they’re stereotyped as fat and dumb, if they want people to stop doing it maybe they should stop stereotyping another countries as well.
Nope, everyone just keep playing to the stereotypes.
The whiners will make themselves known about how unfair it is, but the smart people and trained soldiers will dismiss the garbage for what it is and wait silently until the other countries get complacent and buy into the stereotypes.
+1. Not everyone can have an ocean to keep them apart from Germany.
There is one error though, France was occupied in WWII, but not in WWI (and today, exactly 93 years after WWI ended, more than ever we should know that). That makes one world war with an occupation, not two.
Not to mention all the ass-whooping they have gotten from much smaller countries in Asia and Middle-East.
Inb4 hurrrr we killed more.
you know, except for the fact that we have won every single war in our history, except vietnam, which if you want to get technical was a police action and mainly failed because of dumb politics.
however, i hate americans attitudes that their army is the best. god forbid we ever fight against the swiss army, we would get our asses handed to us on a silver platter.
Why such a ridiculous stereotype against the French though? They were in a desperate position. They had to either surrender or waste more lives pointlessly and lose anyway. Not to mention the French Resistance put up a hell of a fight through guerrila warfare.
And to think that they gave you that lovely statue you use as national icon. No wonder many of them have an animosity against American tourists.
But don’t forget that you came in late for the two world wars, removing a lot of burden.
And when you fought us, (English) in the (Civil War/War of Independence) ((I don’t know)) we were contending with Napoleon, so you only got the TA.
You were contending with Napoleon during the War for Independence? Because said war ended in the 1783, when Napoleon was 14. So America defeated the British in said war because your countrymen were fighting off a fourteen year old who wouldn’t even graduate to become and artillery officer until two years later? I’m not claiming as an American were better than everyone else, or that were superior. (Honestly being in the U.S. Army I value our alliance and friendship with the British, French and all our friends around the world) Also I’ll grant that the French greatly helped us in that war, they did there best in World War I and fought hard. Though the U.S. changed that war greatly when we broke through in the Argonne Forest in 1918 and started our combat involvment in the second great war in 41, though we supplied our allies starting in 39. But I must admit the fact the French military left France for England rather staying to fight to the death for there homeland disgusts me, on the same token the French resistance deserve as much respect as any GI in that war brave souls all. Honestly, the biggest reason why so many Americans dislike the French and say there cowards is because it has been instilled by Americans who lived throught the brutal campaign to take back France, (We lost 10,000 on D-Day alone) So whether or they know, many don’t our culture and families implant that stereotype in us from a young age. Although to end this on a good note all of you the French, British, Israelites, Australians, Japanese, Germans, and countless others I’m proud to stand with you to defend this world of ours. Thankyou for all your support and God Bless you.
Why the hell would the swiss ever want to fight anyone? Their army is so damn powerful and their country is small enough that everyone just leaves them alone. But I agree….
Well, if we’re talking about historical armies (how the hell would the modern swiss army be of any threat?), then I say: Bring on the Carolean infantry! Taste swedish steel!
Swiss army: Relying on litteraly no combat experiance since ~1700…
Higgs: awful spelling since [insert year of introduction to school here].
Spetsnaz. Your comment is invalid
“Putinhas, por favor”. BOPE!
I think you guys have overlooked the fact that the British Army ARE actaully the best trained Army in the world.
Others would disagree.
Others are idiots.
could say the same of you
why don’t we start an war to see which one has the best army ?
No to be trolling, but I thought Israel had the best trained army in the world. I mean, hell, do they ever take a break?
Your avatar has boobs…
I think I may be the best trained combat expert in the world. See, I learned this really good move called the full nelson and you can really hurt a guy..
British soldiers huh?
who one the war between America and the Brits? oh thats right… AMERICA! how about them crumpets?
Zing!
Hooah
Hooah, indeed, sir, hooah indeed!
Even if I have nothing against army (I actually intend to join), I really wonder what the world would look like if every single one of the 99% were actually member of the army.
Well, maybe people wouldn’t wait for Skyrim so bad.
End people of wallstreet would make another face.
The world would look like Israel
Everyone would complain about how the world is out to get them?
The entire middle east is out to get them.
And so are the evil anti-semites who hide behind every corner.
“The holocaust: NEVAR FORGET! Although, ignore every other people’s suffering. They’re not chosen people”
^this
And they do pretty damn well.
“Where some states possess an army, the Prussian Army possesses a state!” -Voltaire
Sparta?
All you Gotta do is throw a dog off a cliff.
He’s making a troll face behind the paper. You can see it in his eyes.
Although I do disagree on the government’s stances and reasons for fighting, I still salute all the brave soldiers as they are not the ones who say who we should fight.
They are imperalists. I don’t like soldiers.
Heretic scum! By the will of the emperor, you shall be purged!
AVE CAESAR!
This meme is all WIN. P.S. HerrDerrrDerrrr, you enjoy sitting at your desk/toilet combo stuffing your fat face and spouting off about your beliefs that you will never actually fight for outside of trolling forums.
Well, killing for money is not really what i want from life.
YOU’RE IN THE MILITARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OF COURSE HARD WORK PAYS OFF FOR YOU! YOU SIGNED A CONTRACT!! YOU HAVE JOB SECURITY!!!!!!
It’s when you step out of the military that you realize that you’re screwed. Of course you believe in working hard. Try not having Uncle Sam backing you up, paying for you schooling and housing, in exchange for serving our country.
And before anyone asks, I do support the troops and for everything they do to preserve our freedom, however, I don’t see why a soldier would have anything against the 99%. This has nothing to do with them.
I see it more often. It comes down to “I’m a soldier, therefore my moral/political/etc standpoint is better than yours by default.”
Bloody nonsense of course, this indeed has zero to do with the military.
Yep…its the kool-aid they make um drink.
they can’t have own moral/political standpoint. they’re told what their standpoint has to be.
Can’t tell is very stupid. Or just an A-hole.
Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the majority of these OWS protestors are basically protesting for lack of a better word nothing. I still haven’t heard any leader of this movement state what they wish to accomplish other than “The rich need to pay their fair share” Well sit down, do the math, give us some numbers or some names and actions of corrupt people, and let’s VOTE THEM THE FLIP OUT OF OFFICE. If you can’t make progress on your movement how do you intend to make progress with the government?
^This
misses the point
Really? Some of the media have cottoned on pretty well.
Reformation of taxes, closing of loopholes that promote corporate greed, campaign finance reform that limits the influence of the wealthy (individual or corporation), and an end to corporate personhood.
The general goals of OWS are pretty clear.
Watch a real news station and not Fox News if you want to see what the movment is about.
Ask a protestor and try to get a coherent answer out of them. Then you’ll see that 99% of the 99% don’t know why they are there. its like someone weened a bunch of teenagers on Rage Against the Machine lyrics instead of economics classes and loosed them on society.
Welcome to the garbage that is America today…
Actually, there’s pretty much a consensus among the protesters that they are against corporate corruption in our government and want to end it. Have you actually talked to any protesters? For every person they show one the news who says they don’t really know what they’re protesting there’s at least 25 who do.
You didn’t read Gerbles’ comment at all, did you.
“Well sit down, do the math, give us some numbers or some names and actions of corrupt people, and let’s VOTE THEM THE FLIP OUT OF OFFICE. If you can’t make progress on your movement how do you intend to make progress with the government?”
I’m in the military, and I don’t really know any coworkers who would say something that presumptive and arrogant (although I agree this guy has no business railing on Occupy, imo). I will say, however, that anyone who’s served a tour getting shot at and having their base mortared on a near-constant basis has a certain immunity in conversations about sacrifice.
A valid point, however a lot of people believe that volunteering to join the military constitutes a death wish and recklessness masquerading as patriotism, rather than bravery, moral fiber, etc.
You haven’t been in the armed forces. You wouldn’t understand.
Probably the fact that soldiers work hard by choice and are tired of seeing hipsters whining about rich people having power in a capitalist society between their frappucino runs and working on their screenplay. You don’t actually believe all of the 99% are unemployed and homeless, right? A lot of them are bandwagon hipsters acting entitled. They often make their lives harder than it has to be by refusing to accept how the real world works. Privilege is not something to waste.
+1 I hate tat hard work and sacrifice is vilified in this country right now. You know how i create job security? I work hard, prove myself and constantly improve myself at work. If i want to buy something extra i look for overtime. If my job wasn’t enough i’d get a second one. If i was dissatisfied with my job i’d work toward another in my company or keep my job while i looked for another. I don’t expect handouts, i don’t look for other people to do my work for me, i don’t complain that my boss or his boss is making more than me. The unemployment is so high in this country exactly because of the entitlement some feel. They feel like they shouldn’t have to work if the job isn’t what they want to do with their life. Go get a retail job until you find the one you want. Go be productive instead of a drain. You can’t complain that no one is doing anything for you when you you won’t do anything for yourself.
To the guy in the pic: Thank you for your sacrifice. I’m more than happy to help pay for your education. Go get em!
keep believing that moron.
^This
if 99% of the people have only 1% of the money… and the 1% have the rest… and theres 312685939 people in the US as of the 28th of november… that means there are only 3 million people who hold 99% of our wealth. If that’s true… how did so many people buy MW3? Why are there 12 million World of Warcraft Accounts? Why have we all, as the 99%, wasted our precious 1% of money on Justin Bieber concerts and Twilight? Because I can tell you that I have never seen anyone who looks CLOSE to holding 99% of our nations wealth at a Rebecca Black concert
Of the 11 friends and family members I know who’ve done heir time 2 of them
Have careers… as soldiers being constantly shipped out of the state. The rest are just as desperate as the rest of us. 2 of them ended up selling drugs because they couldn’t find work and ruined their records.
BULLSH*T Go to Careerbuilder 99,000 jobs posted in the last 7 days, all carrers, areas of the US.
Compare that to the 400,000 new jobless claims filed last week, and that leaves 4 seekers for every job, to say nothing of the 13.9 million long term unemployed.
I think what he’s trying to say is that he’s a person who found an opportunity for employment that other people who say there are no jobs aren’t considering.
And he’s putting the spin on it that the ones without jobs are saying their country and social structure is failing them, when they could all in fact do something FOR the country and social structure that takes some guts and find that it will support them in return.
Yes, everyone join the military! It’s no problem that there’s actually proof that our government has lied multiple times to get us into foreign conflicts. The whole concept of paying for your education if you join the military is a bribe. You’re not going to see billionaire’s, senator’s, and congressmen’s kids out there fighting, it’s going to be lower and middle class kids.
Ummm…what about Bush Jr.? He served from 68-74 during which time his father had a seat in the House of Representatives, and then moved to the Senate.
I really hate to point that out because I despise the Bush era, especially Jr, but I hate broad brush arguments more.
You’re wrong. It’s not just the lower middle class out fighting, although they certainly are a majority of our armed forces.
Don’t forget John F. Kennedy. He would be considered part of the 1% in today’s time but chose to serve in our nation’s armed forces anyway. Son of a multi-millionaire who had his daddy pull strings for him just so he can get INTO the navy. On top of that, he served in WWII and was almost killed in action. Years earlier, his older brother was killed in action when his plane was shot down by enemy fire. So yes, sometimes rich kids will join the military and put their lives on the line.
I’m pretty sure this completely contradicts Herrderrrderrrr’s post.
A bribe? As I recall, the pay, the housing, the benefits, and the money for school were all a part of my contract for service. And I have received every bit of it. If I had a carpenter build me a house, would me paying him for his work be a bribe too? By the way, I know plenty of kids who came from rich and political families who chose to fight.
Agreed.
I actually seriously considered the military while I was unemployed. After doing some research, though, I found I would likely be denied for medical reasons if I even tried.
I’m sure I’m not the only one. It’s incredibly presumptuous to assume that everyone who’s not in the military and complains about being unemployed didn’t consider it as an option, or are opposed to hard work.
Uncle Sam does not hand out his own money.
The tax payers are supporting him. While he should be paid more for the life threatening job in which he works, the fact that he isn’t is because of the mismanagement of funding and the overpaid fluff in government.
This is one of the things I believe the 99% is standing against.
People seem to think that getting paid for a job is the start of fairness. However, if the money that the person was given for doing the job was actually just stolen from their bank account, would the person feel the same?
They do nothing to preserve your american (or our European) freedom to be honest. Fighting back dark age-minded savages in the deserts and mountain ranges of asia doesn’t mean that you’re protecting yourself, it just means that you’ve left your home (at least more) unguarded.
Both me and my brother are British soldiers and we do have amazing lives without the crappy army that the americans have.
also this is a copied picture that was posted to 4chan easily 2 months ago
Can’t tell if troll or just really stupid
Thank you for your service.
He’s proud of being in the army? wow.
He’s proud of being willing to die for your freedom.
Wow.
He is proud that he believed what the recruiters said when they went to his high school and told him how awesome the army was and how he will come out of the army with an awesome job. Sadly though vets are now one of the most unemployed people in America because businesses do not know how to use their work experience in everyday life and are afraid they will have mental problems from being in the army.
-I am not anti army. (even though this guy was a tool with very little know how on how America is right now…)-
Pretty sure people can choose to fight for something without being brainwashed by a recruiter. Either way the whole 99% vs 1% thing is baloney and juvenile to say the least. Not all middle class to lower class Americans are too naive to understand capitalism.
if they aren’t being brainwashed by the recruiter, they must have been brainwashed before. every soldier who has ever fought was fighting for freedom, or so they believed. Anyone who stops and says that their army is the only one fighting for freedom has clearly been brainwashed. it doesn’t matter by who.
LOL another out of work lazy a$$.
How can he be out of work? I saw him pimping your mother out the other night.
I don’t understand how you think he must be brainwashed. I was in the us military and chose to do it out of free will and didn’t believe pretty much anything my recruiter said. I joined because I wanted a stable paycheck and a way to pay for school. He’s just trying to say that you have to work your way to the top, not go to school and expect someone to give you everything.
So basically everyone who disagrees with you has been brainwashed. That is some foolproof logic.
We no longer have capitalism we have a monopolistic oligarchy, nor do the greedocrats understand free market capitalism.
Free market capitalism, by definition, is maintained through competition. The current system does not promote new competition as anything other than a spark to ignite buyers.
The oligarchs would have you believe “free market” means “market without rules.
Nothing the US armed forces did in the past 66 years has had ANYTHING to do with my personal freedom. Not even with the freedom of americans. It’s scary that they manage to convince 300 million people of this nonsense.
^This
This guy speaks the truth.
And you’re an idiot for believing that.
^this
^ this
< that
word.
this guy believes your freedom has anything to do with war in the middle-east
Wow.
It… doesn’t? The war in the Middle East is all about oil. Lmao, why else would we care about a stinking desert?
And its primitive dark age-society. It’s not like the soldiers of western civilization are fighting the soviets at the hight of their power. No, they’re fighting quite poorly equipped savages. I’d say we bring back our western troops and close our borders to 3rd world immigration. I know Sweden’s had enough of that last one over the past few decades.
He’s in the US military? How is that not a government-funded job?
Newsflash: you are working in a sector with a government monopoly and that means that someone is subsidizing your pay!
Downside of this job is that people will try to kill you.
Yeah, that’s great. Good luck finding a job even with that college degree you may or may not live to complete.
This is not 1950. Military service is not a path to riches. You’re in the 99% of the 1% of the 99% that’s too dumb to realize that you’re the whole reason the other 99% are pissed.
of 99%.
Yo dawg, I heard you like percentages.
^ this
Blah, I hate the troops & I refuse to support them. This meme sucks.
He forgot to mention “And I lost all my free will”, “Will get shot for food stamps” and “I am a pawn who shoots people I don’t know, for a government that lies to me periodically”
Does that cover it?
That soldier guy is a really jackass
Oh yeah. Its funny because he is just to stupid to realize how he has been played.
Believe it or not, members of the military aren’t robots that do everything they are told.
Shocking, I know.
I’ll leave you alone while your world view breaks and you have to take a long look at the retard you have been thus far.
Believe it or not, members of the military aren’t robots that do everything they are told.
Shocking, I know.
I’ll leave you alone while your world view breaks and you have to take a long look at the person you have been thus far. You should change. Or else you will die young of a heart attack.
Should I believe that without question, as if I were in the military?
People are so stupid. Yea, you join the military then they magically remove your free will. Soldiers are people they can think on their own. Everyone acts like all soldiers are Nazi’s. You are obviously to self-centered to actually meet a soldier and realize they are pretty normal people.
I know a soldier in Afghanistan. Special Ops. Training Afghani soldiers.
And I know he’d do anything to leave the military, but he doesn’t have many opportunities outside the military.
Alas, he doesn’t have a degree he can fall back on.
No one said “Nazi” but you. They have no free will, if they did, they’d all go home immediately.
There’s a big difference between no opportunities available and no free will. No free will means you are incapable of making decisions on your own. No opportunities available means you could still leave the military you just wouldn’t have a job.
that should be “i shoot people that shoot at me.”
“I shoot people that shoot at me because my government has invaded their country without reason.” There fixed it again.
No, you just made it worse.
^ THIS
… And every German was a Nazi. Same generalization, different context. Moron.
Doesn’t matter/In the army
Opposite of Doesn’t matter/Had sex, for those trying to keep up.
TL;DR
probably for the better you didnt
Pledging to give you life for the 1%… priceless.
The phrase has lost all meaning.
I have a good job, a steady income, and aren’t in any particular want for anything, but as my net worth is measured in less than 7 figures I’m the 99% too. You guys seem to have lost track of what the movement was about in the first place. Not that you can be blamed: the media don’t seem to be paying much attention either.
Soldier boy never got it at all, and if the job market doesn’t pick up by the time he’s out of school he may be for a very unpleasant surprise, as have been not a few veterans already.
On the other hand military service is a very respected job history.
Yes, but it won’t count for crap when they don’t hire you on account of the possibility of PTSD, not to mention what would happen if you end up mutilated or disabled.
Or dead.
They may still hire you if you’re dead.
You’d be a great prostitute for necrophiliacs at the very least.
Maybe, but there’s always been an employment crunch for veterans at the end of large-scale deployments, even in economic boom times. It’ll be even worse now.
What exactly is this movement about in the first place?
If I could get a straight answer, instead of “Rabble, rabble rabble!” all the time, perhaps it wouldn’t be a big joke.
Simple, really. It’s about the inequality in the distribution of wealth in corporate America. People are angry about this because while the ’99%’ are still being heavily taxed and stay comparatively poor, even if they work really hard, the ’1%’ actually have extremely stable positions and instead of working really hard, are given perks and pay rises, even though some of those people are actually hurting the companies they work for. The don’t get fired, they are actually given more money. Something has to be done, and these protests are one way to do it.
This “99%” could really use a political theory class. They don’t seem to understand that in a capitalist society true democracy cannot exist. Of course the people with more money will have more power and security. It’s a shame, but if you don’t like it you should go find a country where money doesn’t matter at all.
or maybe, you know…. try to fight these problems and make the country a better place?
So what you’re saying is “This system has big flaws, but we shouldn’t try to change them”. Got it.
You might also want to mention that every year the memebers of the top 1% change pretty regularly so it isn’t the same 1% every year at all… and sure there are some families that are rather established from previous well made investments but now-a-days are riding off that, but I see nothing wrong with that either. Is it so bad that a father would want to set up his family so they didn’t have to work hard? But back to the original point, the 1% changes because people are always finding new and better ways to make money and that as a whole benefits society. In a capitilist economy, people who are attempting to serve themselves (making a business, creating products) serve everyone
What’s bad about the 1% — and not even all of them — is not the wealth per se, but how it’s hoarded. Consider the reaction to Warren Buffett’s recent statements.
If you raise taxes on the majority of the 99% who live paycheck-to-paycheck, it has a deep, immediate impact. You’re taking away money they would certainly put to other uses if they had it. You might even be taking away rent, food, or utility money: certainly you’re taking it away from other comforts. But if you raise taxes on the 1%, you’re taxing their surplus. For the most part, were they to pay an additional 10% in tax, it would hardly impact their lifestyles at all. For those not living off trust funds especially.
But which group has an entire political party dedicated to keeping them undertaxed? And this at a time when significant tax increases are clearly necessary along with the at least equally necessary spending cuts.
Unfortunately, not all those who “serve themselves” are actually creating value as you describe. Were that true, we would not be in the mess we’re in now. The Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerbergs, Bill Gates, etc. of the world do that, but we instead have an oversupply of Gordon Gekkos. That’s not good.
except of course the fact that the top 2% of the population as far as income already pay 98% of the taxes. look it up. the reason you are being taxed so heavily is because EVERYONE IS. the government just takes more and more money, everyone here is it hard by it.
Citation needed.
Btw, corporations are anything but heavily taxed. The effective corporate tax rate is about 10% and some of the Fortune 500 don’t pay any taxes at all. More stuff here: http://www.ips-dc.org/files/3552/Executive-Excess-CEO-Rewards-for-Tax-Dodging.pdf
Except for the fact that a heavily taxed family with low income will be hit a LOT harder by the same tax level than the top 1% who may, oh so sadly, lose the ability to buy their 6th luxury apartment.
maybe take a look at the tax figures for this year.
Anyone who says its about redistribution of wealth is an idiot, regardless of which side they are on.
Corporate America caused the economy to crash.
They get bailouts.
Then they throw more money away, don’t make new jobs, pay even less taxes and still get million dollar bonuses for f***** everything up.
Here’s another example: Major corporation whine about unions and benefits saying Americans demand too much and they can’t afford it. This is untrue… at one point, there was a SURPLUS in benefit money. Then some laws change and shifted and corporations learned that t hey could take the money that was set aside for retirement funds and pensions and use it for all kinds of other things as long as they could pay it out at a later time. So they ended up pissing it away in bad investments and, in some cases, literally embezzled. Then they set aside millions for their executive’s pensions… million dollar pensions that is… and now are struggling to refill the jug of water they cut holes. So who do they blame? The blue collar, hard working, middle to lower class American worker and their ‘demanding’ benefits.
Go watch some other news apart from Fox.
Yeah! Because anytime someone has an opinion you don’t like, just accuse them of watching Fox and be done with the argument.
only in us….
Working hard does not equal signing your life away, and dumbing yourself down to receive instruction without question.
Do support the soldiers. Don’t support pretentious douchebags.
^THIS
you are awesome
Like a boss.
Good for you… But you’re not a better person for choosing military instead of a college degree. Hard work pays off, college can be hard work as well. And I think people in college would love a part time job. I had a part time job which was hard when I went to college. Now there’s not even part time jobs.
Now THIS is a troll
actually, he’s the the 70% of the 99% who doesnt understand what the 1% is and who really thinks he’s the 1% while the 1% lolz @ that.
So what you’re saying is.. What?
Do you know how to read?
He doesn’t say he’s in the 1% (in the original 99% vs 1% argument).
He’s saying he’s in the 1% OF the 99% that tries to make life better for themselves rather than moaning about it.
To be honest, I’d say that is probably true of at least 50% of the 99%…
http://the53.tumblr.com/
Amen Brother
This guy is awesome! You lazy protesters should learn something from him!
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-ruined-occupy-wall-street-generation/ just so you know that the world is not as simple as “lazy people vs. hard-working people”.
This guy has literally no idea why people are protesting, and that’s sad. But when the rich control the media that’s what happens. Nobody is upset about that. People are upset the very rich are buying our government and corrupting it. They are upset by the market crash that was allowed by the deregulation from this corruption and they are upset that the consequences are avoided by the people who caused on it and taken by the middle class.
I’m really glad bro, that your life is turning out, but this isn’t all about a single person, get some perspective.
dude didnt get it at all!
or is an awsome troller!
Choosen the USArmy to get a paycheck is just hilarious.
Kill inocent people, fight atackfights against an enemy with is just an enemy cause the US or Israel didnt like their way of life. Paycheck to give his soul to hell!
or just trollin
i dont know
For some the army was one way to put food on the table for their family, and have a job. Hell Plus some college money. Yeah we are at war, but damn. You also got to think. Does anyone think that a corporation or office job is any different when following orders. If your boss tells you to do something, even if it sucks ass. You can’t say F**K off. You have to do it or you lose your job. Samething applys to the army. We might have some of our rights hindered, But hell a job a job. Better than being broke and homeless.
Not to mention, not everyone is ACCEPTED into the military. Some people don’t meet the criteria and no matter how much of a dream it may be for them to have that temporary job stability, they will never be accepted into the institution.
Oh poor, deluded soldier. Wait until you ETD. See how easy it is to go to school and get a degree BEFORE your GI Bill and College Fund run out. See how easy it is to get that position with the powers that be running the show. See how fun it will be to try for the job you want and have to wait longer because the GP HATES you, now that you no longer wear that uniform.
Good luck little buddy, you’re going to need it.
Amen to that, my Soldier Bro. Good luck to you, and come home safely.
What does “protecting freedom” mean?
I’ve lived in the U.S. for a year and I hear Americans say this a lot but I still have no idea wtf they are talking about.
To be honest, the way Americans obsess over their awesome FREEDOM™ kinda reminds me of a socially awkward nerd obsessing over sex because he’s not getting any…
^
True that. Being an American expat I chuckle at so-called American freedom. People are so much more free where I live now.
Yeah, freedom is important in a country where it’s the buzzword of all major documents. If our constitution and declaration of independence had “ice cream” written all over them people would probably care a lot about enforcing ice cream around the world.
Yeah I live here and I’m not sure myself…
I lived in a commie country previously. Do that then you’ll understand.
I’m sorry for what you lived, but I’m pretty sure that we’re confusing whatever we have in democratic countries with “freedom”.
If you want true freedom go move to the jungle.
Is this guy an idiot? Where does he think his government healthcare comes from? It’s a handout because no insurance company in their right mind would insure someone paid to go into war zones.
WELFARE QUEEN
Duh, the freedom to pay lots of young men exorbitant sums of money we don’t have to go get their legs blown off in order to sustain military actions that of dubious efficacy in the first place, and popular neither in America, the countries in which they take place, nor the rest of the world, for at least the span of a generation before we realize that it’s not quite turning out the way the occupation of Japan did and that it’s hard to slink away at this point without looking like asses one way or another.
IT’S PRETTY IMPORTANT OKAY.
“to pay lots of young men exorbitant sums of money”
Go look at the enlisted pay scale and tell me whats so “exorbitant” about it. I’ll even post a link.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp
Yuo might want to look at the “exorbitant sums of money” an E-4 or E-5 pulls in. I cant see his rank so i just took a stab in the dark. Yep he gets free healthcare while active, but most are still below the poverty line.
Yea, they make exorbitant sums of money, that’s why a private makes a little more than a McDonald’s employee.
Yeah, exorbitant. $30k a year.
There’s still a difference though. A civilian on a 30k salary still has to pay for housing, food, electricity, heat, gas for a car (assuming they don’t live somewhere with decent public transportation), etc. That’s a huge chunk (if not all or more) of that 30k salary.
*that are of dubious efficacy
Where as I respect your service, keep in mind who is paying taxes for your paycheck, benefits, and college.
oh, SNAP
My thoughts exactly. Don’t forget about the VA hospital and the pension if the serviceperson retires after full service.
And happy to do it.
He also pays taxes for the same thing. Point is????
^THIS
LOL i am only guy in america who pay taxes
ya we pay taxes also… good job
DoD paychecks aren’t tax exempt, bud. Finish crying and try again.
This. Just because this moron has a steady job by willing to kill anyone on command and potentially never see their families again doesn’t mean everyone not in the same situation is “Lazy”.
Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps just isn’t pheasable anymore.
Look! An inbred redneck in the military! What a shock!
I know that I, being employed full time with great benefits, wanted free handouts when I started supporting the Occupy Movement.
I know that I, facing the danger of arrest and injury for exercising my Constitutional rights, was just a lazy coward.
You know what the military doesn’t require of enlisted men? Education, intelligence, or talent. Try to get a real job.
Then you’ll join the intelligent veterans in supporting #ows.
And then when he gets out of college and realizes there are no jobs because the controlling 1% outsourced all the jobs and benefits while continuing to find loopholes in tax laws and after making the economy basically crash via irresponsibility and ill-intent… will he still feel the same?
Better stay in the Army and become a career serviceman then.
The Occupy Wallstreet movement is failing because people believe its about ‘whiners who don’t want to work hard’ when its really about corporate accountability.
As far as I get it, it’s not about “whiners who don’t want to work hard”.
It’s about “whiners who have worked hard for a top-tier education and want to keep working hard at a decent-paying job but can’t find any jobs, and are thus unimaginably screwed over”.
If only they’d actually worked at that top-tier education instead of playing the game of doing whatever the professor requires to get a good grade. In the job market, there are no grades, just work done right and work not done right. If the boss doesn’t see work done right, you’re not going to have the decent-paying job, nor do you deserve it.
Phrased another way, nobody with power over you cares how hard you work, so long as you do what they tell you to do. If I were to condense that into a slogan, it would be “Nobody cares how hard you work; just get it done.”
Professors sometimes give an A for effort even though you got completely the wrong answer. Math professors tell you that it doesn’t matter if you got the right answer; they want to see how you got the answer. The real world couldn’t give less of a s**t about how hard you worked to arrive at the answer; they just want you to tell them the answer. Math should teach us to embrace calculators as a massively helpful tool, rather than taboo that destroyed the beauty of math.
Seems like I went off on a tangent, but I like to phrase my argument in terms of a single example.
Over 99,000 jobs post on careerbuilder in the last 7 days across the country. Whiner…
And how many unemployed/underemployed/employed-outside-their-field are there??
So only few thousand short of the replacement rate, awesome!
The occupy wallstreet moving is failing because the protester themselves can’t come to common ground on what to protest. Also, the violence in Oakland hasn’t helped their cause.
Look it’s someone with a high school diploma, suffering heavily from the Dunning-Kruger effect, making comments about something they’re painfully ignorant about. He’s pretty much the epitome of America.
Speaking of which, hello Cuisine.
This guy is a Troll. Not a meme. Wrong site.
Gotta keep them well payed to prevent a coup.
Governing 101.
And all you had to do was risk getting your head blown off. Or if you get home in one piece, being crippled by PTSD.
And it’s not like America’s ever screwed over it’s vets. Nooooo…..
*its
Dammit.
Thank you for your service!
This guy’s delusional if he thinks he has a guaranteed job on graduation. Nothing’s guaranteed and a lot of vets are finding out the hard way.
mmmmm hmmmmm. Cant wait for this guy to see the light.
At least he’ll see the light, unlike you, whose still stuck in a bottomless pit.
This is happening to civilians straight out of college, too. So stop pretending to be right.
http://news.yahoo.com/protesters-veteran-shoots-self-vt-encampment-222431669.html
Being in the military sure helped this guy…
*Sigh*
All I want is to work 35-40 hours per week for the next 40 years and not ever have to worry about getting sick or being homeless. Maybe take a nice vacation every year or two.
That’s it.
That’s all I want. And I think when you get right down to it, that’s what most people want.
An honest week’s work for the ability to support myself. I have no desire for wealth or power, all I want is to live comfortably.
+1
Maybe you should stop being lazy and start thinking “hey, maybe I should work for the ability to support myself, not expect everything to have it handed to me”. You need to accept that you have to work 35-40 hours a week, not just lay around lazy, unemployed, and expect everything to be given to you for free.
Are you being funny? I swear it’s hard to tell sometimes. Just in case you’re not, I’ll just say that this Becky wants a job. To work. To not be unemployed. But you don’t just magically acquire a 35-40 hour work week out of nowhere. Sometimes the jobs just aren’t available. Some unemployed people are certainly lazy. But the ones who are looking for work, who want nothing more than work, can hardly be called lazy.
I actually HAVE a full-time job. 40 hours/week, every week. But I make less than 18k/year (before taxes, which I do pay). I can’t support myself on that income. Not where I live, anyway.
I’d actually be financially better off being unemployed on welfare, cranking out babies, living in section 8 projects. I’m fighting and protesting because that isn’t right.
and because the rent is too damn high…
I was being funny, yes, but I’ll have to note that if you work 35-40 hours a week on acquiring a job, you have some pretty good chances. Don’t just send off an e-mail every week or so for the job you’re underqualified. Really grind through everything. Visit the location and deliver the resume in person. You’re unemployed – you should be spending your “free time” searching for jobs.
She JUST told you that she WANTS to work 40 hours a week. RIGHT there. In plain english!
And you STILL read what you wanted to read, rather than what she actually said!
Somehow your brain saw “I want to work” and translated it into “I want a handout”? What the holy effing hell is WRONG with you?
Wai..wha? Are you old enough to legally have a job?
You can read, right?
Obvious troll is obvious.
Do not feed.
Why not? Trolls are only slightly more disease-ridden than pigeons, and I still toss breadcrumbs around the park every so often.
Yea, this guy gets a nice vacation every year or two to Afghanistan. 15 months! Now that’s the life.
This is the most awesome thing I have read on this entire thread. Even though you are female (I assume, from your name “Becky”), your balls are bigger than mine.
Isn’t getting paid to go to school a handout?
its a good thing one of us has realized that selling your soul to the devil has benefits. even if joining the military wasn’t essentially signing your life to the largest criminal organization in the world, i still wouldn’t do it, because being a subservient zombie for 4 years and coming out of it as a morally corrupt nobody does not appeal to me.
Stick it up your ass. I don’t like this guy, but I love our military you ungrateful piece of trash.
No clue about the militlary other that Main Stream Media….buhbye
And that soldier has no idea of the occupy movement other than what he gets from Main Stream Media.
Derp Derp Derp!
I get great benefits and free college but I’m not getting handouts. I am in the bottom 1% (of the distribution curve for IQ).
NOT HELPING SIR!
Give this man a damn medal!!
Stop complaining that life is too hard and do something for it!
I kill civilians in other countries, I do what I’m told, I was left no other choice by the greedy corporations but to join the military, because they are the ones profiting from war while I put my life on the line, I am the 1% out of 99%.
You are? Sucks to be you. I’ve got it made!
This is one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. Let’s see how proud he is about his 1% standing when his friends are killed and he’s going through survivors guilt and post traumatic stress problems, and getting boned by the government that put him here in the first place.
Oh goodie. Another person with too much free time and a notebook to write on. How delightful.
Let’s see how convinced of this he is once he’s a civilian.
and we are paying for you to be there and do so.
“there” being somewhere we shouldn’t be all together.
risking your life and promoting unnecessary conflict is not a good thing.
besides, if everyone was in the military, there would be no one to pay for the party.
the only difference between you and the rest of the 99% is that you have been brainwashed into thinking you are in a good spot. we know better.
I admire your resolution, but remember: there is a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Military people pay the same taxes everyone else does. Get off the high horse and look it up.
Not sure if trolling or stupid.
Not sure if trolling or stupid… Believe it or not they do pay taxes.
With money they got from other peoples’ taxes.
exactly. glad someone understands.
if everyone is paying taxes, and everyone is in the service, we are all just circle jerking. which really, thats what the world is in general.
But then he died LOL! Fair trade for a shot at becoming the 1% – Oh no wait, he’ll just whine about not getting enough veteran benefits later. That’ll be fun.
I personally know 3 vets my age, whom I have been friends with since Highschool, Middle school, and birth (one each.) They are all unemployed, without degrees. The military recruiters lie to you, I’ve been telling all of my friends this since high school, and no one believes me.
You make it what you want. The 3 you know are scrubs that did just enough to get by.
And you know them personally and can pass that judgement?
My cousin’s husband has been military since he was 18 and is quite possibly the most motivated person I have ever met. It is only just now, when they are in their 40s that they have been able to afford to buy a house. This is a man who has spent more time in the middle east than most (if not all) of the elected officials that sent him there, yet it took him and his wife 20years to be able buy a house. He didn’t get a college degree out of the deal either and neither of his daughters got a penny for college for giving up having their Dad around for months at a time when they were little.
You have no place to judge anyone.
Wow, you truly know all about them, don’t you?
Failers gonna fail.
Hmm… Thread full of comments by entitled brats called out by OP. Successful troll is successful.
P.S. Doctors, Nurses and Engineers are not having employment issues… Yes, you might have to move to Alaska or North Dakota, but there’s opportunities out there. Sorry your BA in communications doesn’t get you a $65K a year job anymore.
“I’ll be paid to go to college and graduate with a guaranteed position.”
Sounds like a handout to me.
niiiiiiiiiiiice
Was not a problem here. Workable 100% just have youre sh*t together and all will be fine. Its the people that dont follow proper directions that get left behind….Hello ows….
Hey! I know this guy! We went to elementary and middle school together and his aunt was my music teacher. Who would’ve thought that after she posted this pic of him on facebook it’d end up here…
Unfortunately. Say the government decides to cut costs, your job will be the first gone, and if the government cant decide how much to pay themselves, the first place they cut spending in is the Military. If we are gonna pay the debt with larger payments. And will probably take apart the military first.
The only reason you can say this is because you took the route of going through the army knowing this is what you get. If you went to school and then tried to get work, you would not say this because you would be like the 99% that is stuck. While not everyone in the 99% has done anything to help themselves, some have and deserve the opportunity and money they get for working hard. Also just saying but you’re essentially getting the free handout of education you don’t deserve. You should work on the salary other people get and have it without benefits and see how you feel. Cheeky git.
Also, that little comment validates the movement even more. How come the guy with a “steady paycheck” who can AFFORD THINGS gets a free ride to college when the rest of us have to grovel in debt for the rest of our lives for our education.
Stfu and dish over your money like everyone else.
I think I might be able to clarify the “Freedom” thing everyone doesn’t understand. If we didn’t have the military we have today(which can be improved) then we would be a weaker country. Therefor we might have more terrorist attacks and Mexico drug cartels would be worse in the US. Now living in fear like we did right after 9/11 is not freedom. People being afraid to fly and so on is not freedom. This is what I figure they mean when they say they fight for our freedom. I think it’s more they fight to keep our country looking strong so we never have to be in a position to actually fight enemies to stay free.
And about this Occupy protest, what bothers me is at least what I have seen of the protest, It’s a bunch of 23-30 hipsters walking around with their Iphones and Starbucks. If you don’t think it’s fair rich people pay less taxes and make more money, then why are you giving them the money when you pay $7 for a coffee? The people who are CEOs at places like Starbucks are the 1%. “Let me protest corporate greed by tweeting about it on my iPhone while drinking my mocha skim milk foam 1 sugar nasty latte.” I think that it is unfair and I am part of the 99% but standing outside in the cold protesting while the CEOs are in their warm offices looking down and laughing at you is not really going to get anything done. Has anything been done since it started? I think it needs to be addressed in a better way. Vote the corrupt out, write petitions, ect. Standing outside complaining about it makes you look lazy and selfish.
seemed to do the trick in egypt.
Funny is that many veterans have joined the occupy-movement.
Yeah, I shouldn’t worry. You’ll get your pay frozen, the weapons and armour budget slashed, your graduate program will be cut and that ‘guaranteed job’ will disappear – because the CEO’s want money taken out of the public’s pocket and into theirs. Oh, and if you die, or get injured, you and your family get less, or even nil benefits, because they’re not really doing anything for them, are they? You are part of the 99%, you just don’t realise it yet.
Yes, but you’re in the army. The employment equivalent of a large ditch.
I’m in the section of the 99% who hate the rest of the 99% WOO GO 1%!
FOREVER ALONE
How presumptious! Not everyone can join the military, just like how everyone cannot be an artist, scholar, politician, or buisnessman. Many are not cut out for the work both physically (born blind, Cerebral Palsy, heart conditions) and mentally (Schizophrenics, anti-socials, Down Syndrome).
Although working hard is an important factor in success, luck and oppertunity are too often shoved aside as being irrelevant.
He wasn’t asking you to get a job in the army. He was asking you to look after yourself rather than expecting some administration to do it for you. You know, the way that the human race, and nature that matter has been doing for the past zillion years.
Don’t quote examples from the animal kingdom because those animals each do their part. A don’t say rich people don’t contribute. Doing so will make you look stupid and invalidate your arguement.
just about everyone can join the military if they set their mind to it. and those disabilites listed would most of the time exclude them from any other valuable work so your point is invalid.
The 2 main factors that disqualifies people from military service are their legal history and obesity. Both of those are determined by the individual’s choices in life. Those disabilities that you listed make up less than 2% of people denied for service.
Maybe because it’s fairly obvious to them (the mentally handicapped, or at least their caretakers) that they will be denied for service, so they don’t bother applying? Fat people (myself included) might get it into their heads that if Private Pyle from Full Metal Jacket can do it, then so can I. Well, no, not really; fat people are harder to hide, they make more noise, they move slower, and they complain more. I should know.
And when he gets rejected out of job interviews because he might have PTSD.
ha, i knew i saw this somwheres. this was on the facebook on one of my friends.
“i have a steady job with great benefits” – apparently PTSD and murder are benefits now.
Lotsa middle-class white kids all mad that they got told up in heah.
Hooah, brother keep doing what your doing! (especially trolling the occupy movement)
His sign should read: The Military: because a war is easier to find than a job.
The middle class havent worked hard and sacrificed? Are you f*cking kidding me?
This guy is an asswipe.
yeah, uh, whens the last time a bomb went off next to your head on your way to work? you ever had to duck for cover from enemy fire while at your desk? you ever yell at your buddy to cover you so you can get another cup of coffee? no? then stfu and gtfo.
My question: Why the hell would you join the military knowing that would probably happen to you?!
“The middle class havent worked hard and sacrificed?”
You’re posting on a site called Memebase.
Yeah, you’re living the hard life…
Is this whole 99% thing just in America? I haven’t heard anything about it here in Blighty.
It’s similar to the Indignados movement of Spain (a.k.a. M-15 movement).
We have it here in Canada too but it wasn’t so bad.
Hipters gonna hate
ITT: trolls, idiots, and morons.
The issue is that we can’t have the entire population sign up for the military. Nor should we have to sign up for the military if we want to go into the work place.
The issue, truly, in this day and age is that we go to college and then when we get out, we can’t get anything better than flipping burgers or waiting tables, when this exact career choice has been slammed into our heads by our parents as something we SHOULDN’T do with our lives!
This is extremely frustrating. Our generation wants security so we can live our lives normally, not hand outs. As a college student, I am very scared that I won’t be able to find a job, and chances are I won’t. Don’t blame us for something we can’t control.
You can control it. The problem is not “can’t find a job.”. The problem here is can’t find the job THEY WANT. You said it, not everyone can join the military. Not everyone wants to. The pay is low, the hours are long, and the work sucks. But not everyone can be a lawyer either. Not everyone can be a history teacher, or a movie director, or any other career. Te problem is, everyone wants the cushy gig, and no one seems to realize that going to school for something does not magically mean you’re going to get the job when you graduate. You can control it by choosing a career path that needs workers, rather than the sweet gig you personally want to work in.
Dude, you are in the military! They spend money with you that should be spent in IMPORTANT things! My parents work their asses off so the military get paid doing nothing useful!
So your saying, that all the LONG days and nights in Afghanistan to liberate a country who has now made great improvements was nothing useful? get of the internet and go see what other countries are like..
No, actually, not useful at all. Was a waste of time, money and lives.
Oh man your parents work their asses off to pay the military. Those guys have it sooo easy. Shut up kid. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Yeah, the government never gave THAT guy ANYTHING.
This guy completely misses the point of the protests, it’s not about getting free handouts, it’s about control. Even though a lot of the protesters don’t really know what they are protesting against, there is still a certain percentage of people who are in the right might and try to change something.
squinting soldier should get his education before the military so he wont write such stupid things, or wait… if he did he would be smart enough to see through killing women and children
Service guarrantees economic security! Join the mobile infantry today!
Seriously? Obviously this guy doesn’t know ANYTHING about the 99% if he thinks that we’re trying to get handouts. Yeah, some people are, but…god. Do your research.
Yeah, I mean its not like military members have the option of free to cheap military housing on base, or free health care… Oh wait, they do. Prior military brat and member here, granted the job is hard, but the benefits, even if death does occur, are worth it. But to say that we don’t get handouts is a lie. Name one other company that allows discounts at almost any random store, just for being a part of it.
Not every civilian job will pay your schooling if you decide to go, and not every job gives you automatic college credits, just for completing said job. The benefits of the military do out way a lot of the b.s. you put up with when you are in, but a pay increase every now and then would have been grand.
^ THIS!!!!
You can get out of the military and have a guaranteed job, if you take care of it while finishing acap. Had a buddy get out with a $40,000+ job fixing heaters and ac units.
Also true are that the benefits greatly help even out the pay. Sure, if you break it down hourly I only make about $3, but add in housing and health care and it add up to about $25,000.
No matter where you go, who you are, what your doing, how much money you have, how little money you have, if you work or not – there will ALWAYS be problems your going to have to face one way or another.. just because you join the military doesn’t mean everything will fall into place for you..it’s the nature of life.
Even if you did go out and get a stable job, and a stabled life…nothing is really stable is it? True happiness is based in the attitude you have and how you look at things
Being a soldier means working directly for the government, which means he’s basically insulated from the whims of capitalism and the free market. This guy isn’t part of the 99% OR the 1%, he just a spectator commenting about things he has no firsthand experience in. I get that you’re making a massive sacrifice to fight overseas (even if I don’t agree with WHY we’re fighting), but that doesn’t give you the right to trivialize the very real problems people are facing domestically.
Stay in bro! I left the navy and couldnt get a job! Now they dont want to recruit anyone for any branch!! D:
Let’s not even touch the whole part about college. GI Bill doesnt provide enough to live on D:
exactly, once you leave the military you are just like the rest of us, just thanked more
Seriously? I get 1400 a month to live on. That is more than enough.
500 for rent, 90 for phone, 60 for insurance and 60 for gym membership. Leaving me with 1190 to do what ever the hell I want. You should try to live a simpler life.
Seriously? I get 1400 a month to live on. That is more than enough.
500 for rent, 90 for phone, 60 for insurance and 60 for gym membership. Leaving me with 1190 to do what ever I want. You should try to live a simpler life.
690 with proper maths but you get an A for trying.
Nope, 750.
Nope, Chuck Testa.
Doh. Forgot 500.
Regardless, 690 is still more than enough.
Where the hell do you live where you can rent an apartment for $500? All the apartments in my area are $1000+.
Maybe I’m missing something, but $1400/month may be great for a single guy living on top ramen, but that’d be a freakin’ tight budget with a family.
Can’t tell if trolling or just asexual. The issue of motherhood, single motherhood, and mothers with careers is a matter for a whole other comment thread, but suffice it to say that that MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE for her in her current situation.
no food? k
No Food, no car payments, no cable, no medical insurance or car insurance, no dental, only one person and living in what is probably a studio apartment. Congrats, you are piss poor and love life.
is that car insurance or health insurance? How about life insurance? groceries? car payments? do you have kids? pets? student loans? gas? utilities?
What planet do you live on again?
Why did you leave? The armed forces is the only reliable welfare program the US has.
I wouldn’t consider being forced away from my family for 6-12 months welfare. I also wouldn’t consider working 84 hours a week with few days off during said seperations welfare, as people who get welfare DON’T WORK.
Or did I not get some sly joke?
You aren’t “forced,” you joined yourself. If you don’t like it, learn a good trade.
I hope he saves a blank page in his notebook for after he reaches his ETS date. Then he will realize how difficult it is to adjust to a life where we pay our own rent, buy our own work clothes, provide our own transportation, and cook our own food. Sure, he might get paid for school (that is obviously why this puke enlisted) after spending hours on the phone with the VA, and watching his mailbox for up to a year. Guaranteed a job after graduation? I really feel sorry for this kid for believing that one.
I wore the uniform of a United States soldier honorably for 9 years, 21 days. I work 40+ hours a week, vote, and pay taxes. I know a thing or two about hard work and sacrifice. I appreciate this soldier for what he volunteered to do, but I am 99% convinced he is in for a rude awakening when he hangs up his black beret and his reserve unit’s PT shirt.
EXACTLY
Not really, I left the military after 4 years, got a degree on the GI Bill, and now am a physician. Maybe you are just an idiot.
They switched back to the patrol caps. Now you have to be special to wear a beret.
I just heard on NPR this morning that veterans have unemployment rates about 1.5 times higher than the current unemployment rate. It’s pretty sad when the President has to give incentives to companies just to get them to hire vets.
I really hope everything works out for this guy when he gets back home.
Vets don’t deserve special treatment. Just because they volunteered to go kill people overseas shouldn’t guarantee them work when so many people who aren’t out for blood are unemployed here in the States.
I think when someone volunteers to fight for his/her country overseas, with the risk of getting either killed or traumatized for the rest of his/her life, that someone does deserve a special treatment. I don’t say we should completely prioritize them completely over the rest of the population, but they DO deserve respect and a little more help getting a job and education, considering that they put their lives at for their country.
Nope.
Well, the “cynical” part of your name is right…
Next time a terrorist is knocking at your door, hurting and killing all that you love, don’t call us. You can handle it just fine. Teach em all how to sing in perfect harmony and kumbaya. Let us know how that comes out.
Next time a terrorist is knocking at his door, many soldiers will be way to busy bombing a school or a whole town in the Middle-East with depleated uranium to actually help someone in the USA.
Your patriotic brainwashing is showing.
You really think we all go over to kill people? less than 10 percent of soldiers actually see any combat at all. much less kill anyone. I’m not saying give them all the special treatment and baby them but at least give some respect.
No, he is deluding himself into thinking that life after the Army is going to get him a job. The idea that 1) The GI bill will pay for college (it won’t) is laughable. 2) That he isn’t getting a handout and he is working hard (getting into the Marines/Army isn’t exactly difficult) and last I checked free housing, transportation, food, plus being paid from everyone else’s taxes 3) That he is working hard or even in combat (he could be a machine shop worker, or in the communication section, or even medical all 3 see little to no combat duty and there are other sections of the military he could be in as well — depending on how his ASVAB went.) Look, I am glad he signed up, and he isn’t a punk, but so many variables and unknowns go into this assessment that we don’t know of.
The 99% is not looking for handouts. This guy missed the point entirely. They’re complaining that Wall Street wrecked the economy three years ago and nobody’s held responsible for that. Not a single person’s been indicted or convicted for destroying twenty percent of our national net worth accumulated over two centuries. They’re upset about the fact that Wall Street has iron control over the economic policies of this country, and that one party is a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street, and the other party caters to them as well. The 99% is all the people who think that we should not have 24 million people in this country who can’t find a full time job, that we should not have 50 million people in this country who can’t see a doctor when they’re sick, that we shouldn’t have 47 million people in this country who need government help to feed themselves, and we shouldn’t have 15 million families who owe more on their mortgage than the value of their home.
You’re an idiot. The protesters are those idiots who can’t figure out that Obama misspending billions was the problem, so they focus on Wall Street (allegedly) misspending millions.
If you don’t understand the difference between billions and millions, go back to school. Oh, and don’t expect me to pay for it.
So…. the Wall Street banks that the gov’t bailed out STILL gave multi-million dollar bonuses to their staff for “jobs well done” and had the gall to turn to the Gov’t to say “We cant deny them their bonus!”
After they had to be bailed out for collapsing and taking our economy with them.
Yet you call this guy an idiot?
The problems began more than 30 years ago with the first repeals of the protections put in place at the end of the Great Depression… the final repeals of those protections happened before Obama even got handed the mess he has to deal with. Im sure it makes you feel more squishy inside to blame the black guy, but you seriously have to pay attention to your own history before allowing yourself the luxury of speaking.
^ omg someone who knows what they’re talking about on memebase instead of repeating what other people say!!!
Not sure if 10/10 or not troll… thanks politics!
They are BOTH the problem. Plus, there is the MASSIVE issue with outsourcing. Companies take our jobs and ship them to China, India, Haiti, etc, to sweat shops where people get paid next to nothing, many of them employing, and abusing, children.
There are no jobs in Haiti!
Have you been there? The country has NO BUILDING CODES! Think about that, its the 21st century and they don’t have a functioning infrastructure system
I, in fact, have been there. Just got back from my third trip today. There are jobs in Haiti, just like the guy said when you tried to prove him wrong. Gildan and Hanes run at least seven different factories in Port Au Prince, where workers have recently formed unions in response to sweatshop conditions. All of the leaders of the unions in each factory were fired as a result (super illegal, if you didn’t know). But no one on the outside will care, because Americans have superficial news coverage that causes people to make their opinions become factual without ever reading in depth into anything. Check your facts before you say that the entire country literally has no jobs in it.
Yeah yeah… we talk about sweat shops and low wages but those people are happy to have those jobs. The reason they outsource is that other countries don’t want 18 bucks an hour just to drive a forklift. Shame on us for demanding astronomical wages and then wondering why American companies go elsewhere.
Where do you live that $7.25 is an astronomical wage? That wage was set because it is the minimum wage that will cover the basic cost of living based on the national average cost of living. Many states it actually costs more than that to live (like Hawaii, coastal states, New England, etc..) And to be honest, the national min wage has not been raised proportional to the actual nat’l avg COL.
In other words, paying less than that is acknowledging you do not intend to pay someone enough money for them to be able to survive on. The whole point is that we exist based on the philosophy that people should not have to work 72 hours a week just to scrape by. The 40 hour work week is a big part of what separates 3rd world countries from 1st world countries. If you’re alright with America being a 3rd world country I guess this is all just a moot point. But I think we’re operating on the basic assumption that we do not, in fact, want America to have the economy of a 3rd world country.
or the Bush admin spending billions in a war that was propped up on complete falsities…oh yea, btw, i totally feel soo much safer now that the rest of the Muslim world wants to see america destroyed more than ever. billions and billions well spent, thanks bush/cheney. and just to play your game with you…you are a complete jackass
That explains why the economy went downhill before Obama was presidcent.
US economy started going downhill during Clinton’s time as president. Bush enforced it due to the massive military budgetincrease for the Afghanistan and Iraq-wars. And Obama is now failing at stopping the budget from taking the step over the hill and downward. What US need to do now is step out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and then lower taxes so that new industrial entrepreneurs can hire more people, which would generate more tax money, even though the individual pay less, if more people get a job it will be a higher tax income for the country as a whole.
You mad Ryan? QQ
The majority of those “billions” were in bailouts(given by Bush) to the banks after they f*cked up big time and on continuing those wars for oil that were, again, started by your friend Bush.
It’s not like wall street is one guy deciding what happens to our economy, we’re capitalist, everybody makes their own financial decisions, you and I are just as much to blame for the economy’s present state as any other citizen of the US. Political figures are a little more at blame here, but it’s not like anybody WANTED this to happen, you say it like somebody made this happen on purpose to hurt the middle-class american citizen, but I, for one, doubt that that is the case.
Since when are capitalist? We left that boat behind the first time any private company got public money to keep it afloat.
As for this guy, yeah, he’s in for a rude shock in the next couple years. Don’t get hurt buddeh, the VA is a monster.
^ this
I know this guy personally and he only made this picture to troll retards like you. Successful troll is successful.
I dunno ’bout you, but the only “occupiers” I see are either fresh-outta-college hipsters or jobless hippies, neither of which are qualified to make any radical statements concerning the living conditions of the everyman.
The people who are truly suffering are the silent ones, because they’re too busy trying to hold down multiple jobs. I don’t think there’s a 99%. There’s a .9% protesting and turning the 1% away from the issue, and everyone else is living proof of the problem.
US Army sucks, this guy saying nonsense sucks, just saying…
You’re late for junior high.
Dunkel…i think i know you…is your first name a mix of your last name?
Agreed. We should just get rid of the US army all together so that anyone can attack us whenever they want. At least then we won’t have one of those suckish armies, right?
How often does Sweden get attacked? Or Australia? They have no standing army. Moreover, if you look at countries like Germany (who is has NATO sanctions against army formation) you could make the argument that it is BETTER for a nation, and an economy, to NOT have an army. To NOT police the world and “nation build,” in places that simply don’t want us there.
If your not in a fight, it is hard to lose a fight.
But let’s just not talk about that. That’s not very AMERICAN!
Both Sweden and Australia have armies. Germany also has a required service of 2 years. Bravo.
Hey, I’mma let you finish, but isn’t isolationism what started WWII? Just a thought.
nice grammar buddy
Well, another guy falling for the neocon meme “all the 99% want is free handouts”.
I don’t see why anyone would rage about this, but it is kinda sad.
One could talk about Wall Street lobbying for deregulation leading to the financial crash and the massive loss of jobs, or the corporate lobbying for excessive tax cuts and subsidies (plus the already huge tax loopholes), but instead, it has to be about how poor people are lazy and want you to work for them.
I wish I had the lack of moral fiber needed to kill people for money.
be careful what you wish
^this
You two are barely human. I’m sure you jumped to the defense of the Oakland Iraq veteran injured by the police. He’s killed I’m sure.
Or do you only support “killers and murderers” when they support your ideological bent?
They probably support your “killers and murderers” because the people they are murdering and killing are the ones that want to murder you.. Thank those “murders and killers” for protecting your right to sit in your parents basement, eat Doritos, drink mountain dew, and beat off in front of a computer screen as you claim to be “holier-than-thou.”
I have the inclination that you’re probably balancing your computer time with your xbox playing games that simulate killing. U so cool bro. So so cool.
^ this
better be “barely human” than not human at all, just sayin’
yea Scott Olsen is alive, he’s actually from my hometown in Wisconsin.
It’s the thought of sacrificing your life and killing FOR some ideological bent. Personally, I would never join because I feel like troops are just being used because they are willing. Not everything any government or military does is for the betterment of the world.
However, I could never be an anarchist, because I think anarchy is just to utopian and it would never work. I’m hypocritical and I suck. The world sucks. The end.
I wish you had a nutsack instead of being one.
see, i agree, but what if he joined because he loves the US? I think if you join the war for the reasons he listed, you are an @$$hole. But i can respect it if it is for our freadom
If you join the army because you “love your country” you are a class one dumbass. Countries shouldn’t be fighting. I would love my country if didn’t need to join the army because there’s no war. I would get a job to support my country. Pay taxes ‘n stuff.
If no one joins the army voluntarily, the government will be forced to draft. We need an army because there are countries that hate us and would probably attack us if we didn’t have an army full of good men and women who joined willingly because they cared about defending their homes.
there is a good reason why those said countries hate you, if you guy’s did something about that then there would be no need to be in the position your country is in.
You say that like it can be fixed in a year or two. No, it can’t. You can’t just change the mindsets and lifestyles of 350+ million people without encroaching on their rights just to make other countries like us. Sure, I hate that so many people in this country are stupid, lazy, and ignorant, but it’s like that literally everywhere in the world, except for the lazy part. What pisses me off is that people don’t get that any single person can be an idiot, regardless of their education, birthright, race, religion, occupation, hair color, etc.
I’m pretty sure he or she was talking about our foreign policy, not how likable our individual citizens are.
Sigh… Americans get such a bad rap, just remember who saved so many countless asses, so many countless times.
Military service has a tradition of honor and discipline, and is fundamental to the defense of a nation.
But, if you think people are going to sign up to protect anything but their own life and their families, if you don’t provide an incentive package that provides some kind of social mobility… you have, fundamentally, no understanding of world, or United States, military tradition and history. People SIGN UP for the military because it allows you a “free pass” to a higher social class. In the past, that was in the form of land or wealth. In the modern world, that social mobility is in the form of a college diploma. Side benefits are the lifelong fraternity of their peers in the armed services (worth more than a diploma, in some cases), and a crash-course in discipline.
Of course, in reality, veterans face higher unemployment, homelessness, mental and physical distress, and aren’t welcomed by businesses with open arms (as those who promote the idea that business is pro-soldier would have one believe).
This guy just fundamentally misunderstands the motives of the people he’s criticizing. Probably because he associates the movement with some people he doesn’t like in his own life. Especially for someone his age, that is very common.
I’m happy I don’t
You’re right. He’s just there to steal oil and kill civilians even if he doesn’t want to admit it to himself. I don’t thank the soldiers, I don’t hate them, I pity them. They were fooled, and they’re gonna have mental and physical scars their whole life to remember it.
That guy is a joe the plumber – like an uncle tom.
you know uncle tom is a racist term and has nothing to do with this right?
First of all, some Americans can’t qualify because of health problems. I’m not just talking about obesity health problems either. I did try to go into the military service because I wanted my college paid for and a chance to serve my country. I was shot down by them because I need to take ADD medication.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,90736,00.html
You should stop taking the medication. You don’t need it. It’s just another form of mind control.
Trololololo
Irony~!
You should try living with an unmedicated mental illness. Not being able to function is not fun.
Two words: Soy lecithin. All the calm of Ritalin, none of the side effects. And five buck for a month’s supply…
Not everyone gets side effects. I don’t have any.
Obviously this guy hasn’t tried raising a family on his wages from the military yet. College is a great plus, but nowadays it’s just a piece of paper. Many college educated people are still out of work. My dad was in the military when my mother married him, so I grew up on military salary. My sister married military and now her family is struggling. It’s fine if you are very careful not to knock anyone up, but if he had a kid or two he wouldn’t be holding up that sign right now. And my college educated husband is under employed right now, went for a year after college without work in his field and after two years in a job he got laid off and didn’t have work again for another year. For the past year he’s been working on a tiny little computer repair shop for half of what he used to make and no one is hiring. But good luck with that piece of paper later! It’ll make you feel good but probably won’t mean jack even when you’re done!
My father lived this life for thirty years. He raised three kids before we had alot of money. No we didn’t have much at the time but we had food, a home, and cloths on our backs. Its always about choices that you make and being able to survive on what you have and put your wants on the back burner. The problem with people is they want instant success, you have to stay in and work your way up.
I like how everyone’s ganging up on this guy and saying it will be rough once he gets out of the army. Newsflash by the time he’s out of the army and finished with school about 4 to 5 years will have passed. The economy will probably be in better shape by then.
It’s cute that you think that.
I’m in the military, have a wife and kid, and am not struggling. Your argument is invalid.
Yes, because your situation is the exact same for others in the military.
Shut up.
Are you retarded? She said its hard to rise a family on military pay and I’m proof of that being incorrect. I’m making very low ranking pay and I do fine. So exactly wtf are you talking about.
Actually it can be difficult to raise a family on just military pay, especially if you are trying to pay for college or live overseas. I don’t know if you are enlisted or an officer (but you sound like a jack ass, so probably officer). But enlisted folks do not get paid all that much money, they make good money for the training they have, but it is a very modest lifestyle with few joys.
I’d be very happy with a 50K income. That’s way above what my father earned 10 years ago when he has to provide for the whole family.
Then again, I live in Québec, we have public healthcare, public education, clean, state-built renewable energy sources…
If the USA wasen’t stuck in the 60′s fear of communism, you guys could get some schit done without invading other countries.
People are idiots……. this isnt why people are occupying wallstrret. DUMBA**
YES! i was gonna comment about that!
Yeah! Me too!!1!
Oh boy, this is gonna piss off some nerdy Americans. Better get some popcorn, rest of the world.
Already done! Now we watch the trols get trolled, and BOOM! Flame War, always fun!
OK
Says the memebase member.
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PREACH IT LIKE IT IS BROTHA!
Stop crying and start working.
They can’t work because there are no jobs idiot! That’s why they are protesting. The economy ccrashed thus a great decrease in jobs. They are protesting because they want jobs but can’t get them. You are in ignorant being.
I’m just going to tell it like it is, so please don’t flame me if you don’t like the truth. Most of the Occupy Wall Street movement are either, unqualified for work, lack work ethic, or are just living in their mother’s basement off of welfare checks.
I am an employed occupier. I occupy because people the vote has lost its weight to the dollar. There are many employed people occupying because there is a problem with they way our political system is operating. The hippie generalization is pretty weak.
Start working where? Are you personally handing out jobs like candy? I don’t see anyone else doing it.
4 unemployed Americans for every 1 open position. Those aren’t exactly good odds.
There are jobs to be had. You just have to be willing to take jobs that may be beneath what you used to make (someone who was laid off) and learn to live off of the new pay. Live within your means and in the mean time continue looking for that job that was similar to the one you used to have. For those who have never worked before there are entry jobs at fast food chains, grocery stores, theaters, restaurants, etc. There are jobs you just may need two lesser paying ones to equal one. Yes you’ll never sleep and have no social life, but hard work does pay off. You can work your way up.
Wow you really are full of $hit
No I’m not. I SHOULD have said in my area though.
This guy… deserves a medal.
No, he missed the point.
Also, he’s nothing but a glorified killer.
Or a Darwin Award.
^that. He needs a Darwin Award.
^That
Ahaha, PREACH IT LIKE IT IS BROTHA!
It’s probably been said a few times now… But he hasn’t exactly got a “guaranteed” place in college or a “guaranteed” anything really, joining the army could end your life.
If you die there, nothing’s guaranteed except for death.
There is noting guaranteed in life besided death anyways.
Well, that and taxes.
Not if you’re a corporation in the US ;D
And shipping and handling….
ummm…no that is not gaurenteed. Cuz’ my shipping is free most of the time.
Unless you’re the 1%.
Then taxes don’t apply to you.
The top 1% pay over 20% of total taxes in America
*Troll face*
and you not getting laid
I have worked hard for years to get the position I currently have, economy be damned, and I recognize that working obscenely hard these days is the only current way to get a job.
But job security? pff, not at all. If i lose this job, even with my specialized and highly trained skillset, I’d have one hell of a time finding another.
So, I salute you soldier for supporting hard work and dedication, but it’s really hard to get fired from the military these days. Want to see hard work never pay off? Look no further than what’s happening in the game industry.
it’s extremely easy to get fired from the military these days. get a dui, suck at your job, show up late too often, act unprofessional to higher ups, break curfew, not mowing your lawn, have out of regulation hair/shave/uniform. any of these can get you kicked out in the military because of downsizing and “force shaping”
Just saying, it’s not as hard as you think to get fired from the military. My sister and her husband are both in the military, and they are cutting a few thousand military jobs just at her station. Military funding is being cut, they barely have money to buy uniforms and weapons and therefore are now cutting jobs.
Still, it’s getting harder and harder. Back in the good ole days, you just had to hold hands and kiss another guy to get a free ticket out.
The US propaganda agency, now visiting meme sites…welcome to 1984 COMRADES.
You’re right!
Because ACORN-funded astroturf would NEVER engage in propaganda, only people who don’t set fires do that!
I appreciate the military, but he says in one sentence that he will be paid to go to school and then says he isn’t getting a ‘handout’. When you are already receiving a paycheck for what you do, that is a job. When you are receiving money for something that should cost you money, that is a grant, or ‘handout’ if you will. It’s not a loan, he’s not paying it back…he’s getting money while not working.
All of the former servicemen I know are also receiving money or benefits still, as well. They are not retired, they simply did their four years and got out. I’m not saying they don’t deserve compensation for risking their lives, but being paid long after you quit your ‘job’ still seems like somewhat of a ‘handout’. I feel like he’s contradicting himself here.
Hello idiot.
Job benefits aren’t wages.
Or are you planning to eschew your job’s health plan because it’s a handout?
He is contradicting himself….it’s just sad that he doesn’t realize it. Then again, he doesn’t know. He won’t know until he gets out and sees what it’s like for himself. Then he will regret ever making that.
ABSOLUTELY THIS. What a total douche. If you don’t realize what a gravy train the U.S. military is while you’re in it, you are in TOTAL denial. It’s pretty clear he joined BECAUSE of all the perks, not because he wants to serve his country, so he can take that condescending crap and shove it.
This is coming from someone who wears the same uniform, has spent spent a year in a warzone, and does not think he’s better than anyone else because of it. It’s rough out there and it’s great to have a job, but there are a lot of people that simply can’t enlist through no fault of their own. A uniform doesn’t automatically make him more “hard working” than anyone else. Some of the laziest people I know are part of the armed forces. Also, there are plenty of military jobs that require no more sacrifice than the average civilian job.
Huge FAIL.
I think he’s hiding his face because it would be instantly recognizable as Trollface.
I work, am successful, and my household income is in the top 20% — within sight of the top 10% in fact.
I just think that if I pay income tax, so should Fortune 500 companies. And last year, 46 of the most profitable Fortune 500 companies paid no income tax, and many received subsidies on top of that.
Is there anyone here who thinks that’s OK?
None of the anti OWS people here will answer you… Not when you make so much sense. Never let the facts get in the way of a good poor bashing session.
No. Nobody does. A flat tax with no write offs would eliminate that.
Most Democrats and a large number of Republican legislators nationwide oppose that.
why is it whenever people bring up flat tax it always means the me and mine have to pay MORE taxes and rich people pay LESS taxes?
if you look at politcal contributions (the ones that are public, since any PAC ones can be private and any amount) you’ll see that any politician has no interest in charging these fortune 500 any taxes, why? Well most of them are the main sources of income for these politicians, it be republican or democratic, they both don’t wanna loose large amounts of contributions by saying they’re against the very people that are giving them money. and if they did, well we wouldnt hear about them since guess who owns all the venues, and news etc etc etc.
Excuse me, uneducated moron.
You apparently haven’t noticed that “the fortune 500″ pays by far the most of the total income tax bill, and the “47%” pays NONE.
You might want to adjust your rant for reality.
Who’s the uneducated moron? iguess spoke the truth. There is nothing fabricated about his comments.
Troll harder f@ggot.
You mean, people who work for the fortune 500 companies. The employees are among the 53% yes. The company itself? Most of them do indeed pay a net 0 or single digit tax rate on their earnings, which is outrageous when many institutions are still posting record profits quarter after quarter.
Yet the total tax burden for that 47% is usually greater than the CEOs of those Fortune 500 companies, because the 47% pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes, excise taxes, license fees, etc. etc. etc.
Don’t look at income tax in isolation because it will lead you to the wrong conclusion.
Dude. You’re using logic arguing with Ryan. :-/ You’ll hurt him.
That’s it! The 98% should just sign up with one of the fine branches of the U.S. military! Problem solved.
He should know that vets have a higher unemployment rate at 12% than ordinary Americans at 9%.
Are you trying to imply that all those gays the military threw out turned out to be rotten employees in the civilian world?
Are you trying to imply that you are a better troll than Rasa is?
Yeah, people are upset that they don’t get “free handouts”. As opposed to say, being unable to find a job.
Seems legit.
When was there ever any “handing out” anything? Last time I checked the bank charged YOU for using your money, there’s more fee’s and fine’s in small business’s than revenue coming in, gas prices have doubled in a few years, but most peoples jobs, actually get less pay or get laid off.
So a handout would be nice, but I just don’t remember getting one, maybe I missed the bus.
Ever heard of welfare, pal?
Oh, and learn proper apostrophe placement.
at least i don’t kill people
doesn’t make you a good person.
No, what he is doing is fueling the U.S. military machine. You decided to go risk your life for nothing – I am not going to honor you for that stupid decision.
He joined the military to give you the right to spew that sort of vomit anytime you chose. He joined the military to give his family a better future…. to give YOUR family a better future. That is why you should honor him and every other soldier like him. Because you do have the right to say what you feel.
There hasn’t been a legitimate war since World War II. None of the wars since have been about my freedom of speech or about a better future. Who are you kidding? Maybe instead spending money to kill brown people in the Middle East we could be spending money caring for our own citizens. I don’t wish harm to our troops, but I am not going to respect them any more than I respect anyone else because they decided to go fight for no reason.
Really, what ‘right’ is he defending? Seriously… I have yet to see any of these wars become a fight for our ‘rights’. What we have a problem with is a large, but generally unorganized group of religious extremist that attacked our nation years ago. They are not attacking ‘our rights’ they are attacking because their faith tells them too (which says a think about religion).
We are over in the sand box right now because we have many national interests over there (or should I say… Halliburton and Lockheed Martin have many interests). The Defense Contractors are making a pretty penny off these ridiculous wars.
Look, I actually served, as well as the rest of my family, I don’t regret it because it put me through college and allowed me to teach English in Japan, but sorry, soldiers are not ‘fighting for your rights’ if you really want to know who is ‘fighting for your rights’ go look at the Occupy Wallstreet people.
^This. Thanks for Shining some light against dark-age patriotic rethoric.
what are you, the poster boy for westboro?
No, I am not wishing him or any of our soldiers harm or claiming that they are going to hell. I simply will not pretend that they are sacrificing for my benefit and act as if I owe them something. I do not support these wars; they are being fought for nothing. I’m sick of people pretending that these wars mean something, that these soldiers are sacrificing for something – we need to get out, now.
FIRST
tl;dr
Too bad you have to trade your soul for that. I the seem like the government is feeding you with a silver spoon, make no mistake, they own your ass.
Normally the organization you are hired too owns your ass.
Wait…did he just say he has a job with great benefits and pay and is getting paid to go to college next year with a job waiting for him when he graduates? And that he doesn’t get free handouts? And that he’s implying that the people occupying Wall Street want free handouts when in reality they just want the chance to have a decent paying job or maybe just the ability to afford college with a job waiting for them when they get out? So he’s implying free handouts=opportunity for people with less than 250k in the bank account? Soldier logic.
No, he did not say that. Pointing out your numerous errors would be longer than your original rant.
lmao pointing out the numerous errors in your thinking behind the words you wrote would be longer than this entire page of comments. Nobody on Wall Street wants free handouts. Nobody. The fact that some people think this is appalling. Do your homework and stop watching FoxNews. Seriously.
Really? Nobody? Can you prove that?
They don’t have to prove it, they were not speaking literally, but for the movement. The movement isn’t about handouts. Anyone who tries to argue that the things Occupiers want are “handouts” is trying to sell you that rights can be bought.
They can’t. We all deserve a chance for education, a job, a life…A chance, which doesn’t exist for millions of people because the jobs aren’t there and libertarian policies are starving our education system of tax dollars.
That this argument has infect Memebase is a WIN…..this soldier can say whatever he wants…..but a few dozen commentators are going to come away from this thread far more interested in what is going on in the Occupation…with interest comes research..with research, ignorance is banished…and the Occupiers will swell.
THIS, times a million.
yes…lets all go out join the US army and then go to different country to kill innocent people and children to have a decent salary
i just got back from afghanistan after watching my friend bleed to death in Helmand. go f*** yourself.
Dear God, I think my lungs exploded from laughing so hard.
No, you’re still not trolling hard enough, f@ggot!
We dont kill innocent people, we shot at the people who shot first. Maybe you should move to Afghanistan, and you will understand why we protect the civilians from the extremist groups. Note how I said EXTREMIST, not Muslim. I do not think all Muslims are terrorists, remember there are some well rounded people in the military, and experience it before you try to judge us.
Not always. That “Collateral Murder” Wikileaks video shows that. I do believe that isn’t the norm, and that most of the soldiers sent to the Middle East are good people and don’t do stuff like that.
Your Muslim vs. Extremists part — I agree with you entirely.
What did these college educated people get a degree in? If it’s something in the liberal arts (I.E. English, Philosophy, History) it is probably a worthless degree. A STEM degree on the other hand is proving more and more valuable.
As a person studying chemistry, I have to agree with you on that. I plan on teaching chemistry. A lot of people are asking me how I’m going to find a job. I laugh and tell them to look at the news. The demand for science and math teachers is only rising. I’m not making any comments on what this guy said. However, nothing is guaranteed.
I am an employed STEM major. A former teacher (I quit when I was implicitly told not to fail students *see NCLB.) Even if STEM and STEM teaching jobs are in demand, the reality is there are not 14 million(the unemployed) jobs available in that field if they could get the education.
Highest unemployment for college degrees is clinical psychology, at 20%. Technically it’s a STEM degree, but the demand for the degree at the bachelor’s level is non-existent. The degree with the lowest percent unemployment is actuarial accounting, i.e. people who work for insurance companies crunching numbers on what rates to charge people. I majored in a liberal arts area for undergrad (English) but now I’m enrolled in a STEM master’s degree, and let me tell you, my ability to write complete sentences already sets me apart from a lot of the people in my cohort…
Thank you; there are definitely benefits to pursuing higher education in non-STEM fields… sadly, employability is not among all of them.
If an IED doesn’t kill you first. Also, just because you worked hard and became successful, doesn’t mean you’re successful because you worked hard. -Lemony Snicket
This guy decided to kill people just in order to go to college afterwards? What an as*hole. I hope he gets injured so he’ll never go to college/get a well paid job.
We dont deploy to kill people, we deploy to give our services. NONE of us are ever proud of lives that we took. So you better think about what you said. And if you’re so tough, the next time you see a serviceman in uniform, go tell him that you hope he gets injured so he can never be successful because he is nothing but a murderer.
“None”? So you’re speaking for everyone now?
Exactly, yes there are kids who come back and don’t feel guilt. But at some point in their lives they look back and feel it.
ok, lets forget the miltary
what do the wall street protesters want apart from dissing the rich?
Reinstate taxes to where they were in the nineties, regulate security trading more heavily, overturn the Citizens United Ruling…..and a few other things related to decentralizing political leverage form the hands of the rich.
Someone asked a question and got an answer. Internetz just broke.
So to sum it up. The Government + the 1% are taking so much money that you can’t even pay for college in the wealthiest country in the world. They tell you to go fight other people like you in some far away country and when you “FREE” them so you can come home (maybe in a casket) and have what every man in even poorer countries is entitled to: an education. Way to go nimrod!
Solution: EVERYONE JOIN THE MILITARY!!! prblm?
LOL @ the guy in the pic, he’s probably already dead.
Why would you laugh at that? All this kid wanted was to defend his country and people who face death everyday because some extremist nutjob wants you dead for your religion. This soldier has parents who cant sleep at night because he is in a third world country fighting for his life. He probably left behind friends that worry about him everyday. He is a human being and you are a sick person for thinking its funny that he may have died. If its anybody, you deserve to get shot, you deserve to die a thousand miles away from your family and never get to tell them you love them again. I hope you think about what you said, and take it back.
D:
I don’t like this pic…. but DUDE… TOO SOON; that’s mean. What if his mother was a troll and read these comments because she was all liek “DIS BOI IS MAH SON AND… OH DEAR JEEZBUB WHAT IF HE *IS* DEAD?????”
And then she lost all her motivation to troll and died becasue she commited suicide. And since she was his only family member, and when he came home, he found out he had no home and in reality, he knocked up some chick in the military… TWICE… and she died too so he had three kids and no home…. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THAT UNREALISTIC SITUATION HAPPEND? Nothing, because you would never know.
That’s why you don’t make too soon comments… you don’t know how many unrealistic situations could actually be happening.
Congrats, you win the award for biggest f***ing a**hole I’ve ever encountered on Memebase!
i would rather be poor and peacefull, than to be rich and trained in killing people.
If it was “trained to kill dragons” it would be other story. ;D
I would rather be poor and trained in killing someone, because even if you’re peaceful you can’t make the rest of the people peaceful to you, so might as well have the training to fight back.
I wound rather be peaceful and trained in killing someone. That way, I would be a contradiction (or just defending myself instead of using my skills to kill. And then I would offer the attacker some cocoa, and I would hug them, provided they didn’t run away.)
80% of military occupations is non combat oriented, get your facts straight you damn civi.
*Civicivicivi*
If it weren’t for Bush, we wouldn’t gone to was in the first place. And still be paying for it 10 years later.
*war,
Holy sh*t I suck at spelling.
i hate those muggles, they have no magical power
“You damn civi”? Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick. If I didn’t know better I’d say you were implying that people in the military are BETTER than people who aren’t. I know that can’t be true, though, because all your previous rants broach the inherent goodness of all people.
How to get most commented on Memebase
Step 1: Make something controversial
Step 2: Have it relate and argue with a larger act (i.e. “I am the 99%)
Step 3:????
Step 4: Profit
It’s funny because the US Army actually doesn’t do anything at all except selling weapons to random guys with beards.
Nope. Army isn’t allowed to “sell” ANYTHING.
If you want gun sales from the American government, you’ll have to be a Mexican drug lord.
LOL, I was starting to think no one else knew about that story. Silly ATF.
The ignorance is big in this one…
Learn how to knowledge fact.
This kid obviously isn’t very smart. Let’s hope that time in college and military background will score him some free meals during his long years of future unemployment.
Hmm… very interesting psychology here on Memebase.
An Iraq War veteran was hurt at the Oakland Occupy Protest when a tear gas canister struck him in the head when he, along with hundreds of other protesters, were ordered to vacate “Oscar Grant Park” and refused to. He was lauded as a hero and a patriot, and the supporters of the OWS movement propped him up shouting, “Oh my God, he’s a war hero, a veteran, and we treat him like this???”
This guy, a currently serving member of the armed forces takes the exact opposite stand as the Oakland veteran. I have seen at least a half dozen posts here hoping he dies in Iraq, calling this guy a sociopath for killing, etc.
Amazing folks you all are.
You are correct. No one should be calling for his death, and whether or not it is right to be in a military is a completely different subject than the one at hand. But I understand their sentiment.
Smug superiority does no one any good, and the one thing that might provide any evidence that this man might be better than you or me… his service… is called into question when you look at his motives and attitude. As many others have pointed out, he makes fun of OWS “asking for handouts” and then, without any sense of irony, starts bragging about the tax-payer subsidized handouts he’s about to receive.
There are so many things wrong with the letter this soldier wrote. The belief that a college education will get him a job, when so many college graduates (with degrees in fields other than English, thank you) cannot find work. The belief that the protestors are asking for handouts when the bulk of the protest has been about the taxpaying public taking the fall for Wall Street’s gambling and Washington being completely bought and paid for. The assumption that people who protest or believe they are “part of the 99%” could not possibly be hard workers.
My biggest problem with people like this is the sheer arrogance in acting like their accomplishments are all their own doing and there were no outside influences that others might not be lucky enough to share in. Good health, for one. Age, for two (a lot of people caught in the rain in this recession have had good jobs for decades and are now too old to serve in the military). But ultimately, this is America. You know, the land of opportunity? I find it so hard to stomach these people who *brag* about working three jobs to get by and being forced to join the military just to get an education. Good for their persistence, but that is a symptom of something wrong with this country, not something right! I don’t like this attitude, that you look at something that shouldn’t be happening and just shrug your shoulders and say “times are tough, adapt or die”. Yes, please… adapt and survive, but at the same time do something to make it better! Does this soldier think it’s a *good thing* that this is how things are in his country right now?
I had to work two jobs to pay rent when I got out of high school, and I was never able to afford to finish college. Despite that, I was lucky enough to be able to find a good, stable job (it was about 25% hard work and 75% luck – right place, right time). But I don’t look down my nose at people and say “shut up and work harder, because that’s obviously the problem here”. I want my country to be one in which you can afford an education and you can get a good job… I don’t want my fellow citizens to have to live the life I did.
Dude… ^ THIS
Hmm… very interesting psychology here on Memebase.
An Iraq War veteran was hurt at the Oakland Occupy Protest when a tear gas canister struck him in the head when he, along with hundreds of other protesters, were ordered to vacate “Oscar Grant Park” and refused to. He was lauded as a hero and a patriot, and the supporters of the OWS movement propped him up shouting, “Oh my God, he’s a war hero, a veteran, and we treat him like this???”
This guy, a currently serving member of the armed forces takes the exact opposite stand as the Oakland veteran. I have seen at least a half dozen posts here hoping he dies in Iraq, calling this guy a sociopath, etc.
Amazing folks you all are.
It’s not just that guy. A lot of people in America are sociopaths. And being a veteran doesn’t make you better than anyone. If you worked hard to get your bakery running you deserve just as much respect. If he wants to go and get shot in the head,fine. I hope he knows he doesn’t respawn to go back to college….
Apparently Memebase has me on a black list as none of my posts pass review and are… moded.
Seriously memebase. Maybe you should come up with some actual rules on what and what can’t be posted.
Until this, everything I posted was… put uner review. I can’t even use that word without it getting… m o d e r a t e d.
fail whale
Oakland Protester is Iraq veteran. Gets injured. Hero for his support.
Current serving soldier disagrees with protest. He must be a bad person.
I’m sure ideological bent has nothing to do with it.
You can’t confuse or change anyones mind on memebase, cuz all your post are gonna be tl;dr, you just become a little gem of rage we like to read for entertainment.
The heroes were the people who rushed to help a wounded man. Then people in uniform shot them.
You are a morron, just being your usual self.
Whoa…successful troll was successful.
But is he a real soldier or a random guy that enlist in the army because COD say so.
COD fan obviously.
“I’m not getting any free handouts” is the end of the sentence that directly follows after the sentence stating “I will be paid to go to college”. Right, no free handouts.
The free college isn’t a hand out. Not even close. It’s a benefit of enlisting in the military. It’s earned, not handed out. I’m prior military and I have all my classes, books, and my rent paid every semester. I also have my groceries, insurance, and gas paid by the scholarships and grants I actually took the time to apply for. I also have left over free money to go and travel whenever I want. I may not be part of the 1% but I’m able to live like one because I know how life works and I know how to work it.
If you’re still a kid in school, pay attention and get your life straight or else “Real Life” is gonna kick your ass.
If you’re an “adult” already and you’re still slacking around, step up your game because I know you don’t want to be that 34 year old guy getting bossed around or fired by some 20 year old kid.
Anyways, I’m about to reach the top of the hill on this here ski-lift.
Take it easy and QUIT FOKIN COMPLAINING!!!
Psst. Employee benefits are NOT handouts, you moron.
But hey, you want to take that line, lets remove all the retirement package “handouts” from unionized government employees. I’m sure civilian government employees don’t want handouts when the country is in fiscal trouble.
Still not trolling enough.
I recommend trolling harder and faster
Military gets college paid for? Employee benefits, not free handouts!
Public school teachers want to be paid enough so they don’t have to work second jobs to support their families? Teachers are moochers begging for free handouts!
I want to live in a country where I can accumulate wealth and succeed WITHOUT having to work multiple jobs, 60+ hours a week, with no health insurance. KTHX.
(not saying that’s what you said, but I hear that line of logic quite a bit these days)
While i appreciate this soldier’s sacrifice and service, doubly so on Veteran’s day here in the US, i disagree with the tone and sentiments of his message. I am one of the many who cannot join the military for medical reasons. I cannot get this job with good pay, good benefits, promotion opportunities and free education. There is no civilian or non-combat equivalent to the armed services for anyone with minor medical issues, and for that matter no healthcare available if i am not a child, nursing mother or over 65. If i work hard and sacrifice in the private sector I (eventually) get to be assistant manager of Arby’s and still no benefits such as education and healthcare.
Oh my god, you commenters are tree huggers.
I love them trees. I just wanna snuggle up to ‘em and give ‘em and shake their branches.
Is that necessarily a bad thing? Are you implying that Seth (see all his posts above) is a “tree hugger”? What do you even mean by “tree hugger”? Troll better.
hehe previous comment was deleted… mod must have a communications degree:
As I said… successful troll was successful.
And there are plenty of jobs for Doctors, Nurses, Engineers and Lawyers. I’m sorry if your B.A in communications doesn’t pay $65K a year anymore.
Actually, the one percent was the percent that holds the majority of our country’s money. You can work your ass off and be successful and still not make that one percent. So shut your ass up.
“Getting paid to go to college” and “guaranteed job” sure sound like hand-outs to me.
Has anybody realised that the 1percent he’s referring to isn’t an income bracket. its an army phrase only one percent roughly of the population can handle military service or even enlist for that matter he’s saying he is part of the 1% of the country that can serve. And his gauranteed job he is reffering to is his promotion to officer when he gets his degree. Also I dont see where it says hes not getting a handout he says hes not getting a FREE handout
Also to all the people talking about is rather be xxxx than be a killer. I joined to get out of the ghetto and I’ve had more friends from my childhood killed in the street than I have had friends from the army get killed. I joined in 06 and I am combat arms first the infantry now a Combat support m.p
I am one of the 99% of my major that will graduate with job offers.
“guaranteed job”?……I assume he is staying in military then? The unemployment rate for veterans is higher than the national average sooo…knowing things does take more work than trolling
You rock!!! Thank you for your service to our country!
You’re the 1% of the 99% that is proud to serve the interests of the other 1%.
Haha glad to see the majority of these comments are spot on. I have no respect for soldiers.
Go move to Afghanistan, you’ll gain some respect you prick. If you’re so tough, go tell a serviceman that you have no respect for all that he has given up.
Again, why should we respect you for choosing to risk your life for nothing? Me making the same stupid decision as you (moving to Afghanistan/enlisting) is not going to give me any respect for you. If you want to sacrifice everything for no reason, that is your deal, but I am not obligated to respect your stupidity.
Nah. Don’t like deserts. Or getting shot at/blown up. I like temperate America. kthxbye
Redneck American soldier’s argument is invalid….
The guy is clearly Asian. Your troll is invalid.
Wait…what? The dude on the pic is American.
Stomp racism in it’s tracks
You mean he’s obviously white. Your bigoted assumption that White = American is noted.
We can assume assume he is American because he is wearing the US Army uniform…
Or….he saw “U.S. ARMY” on the uniform.
Soooo wouldn’t getting free college be a hang out…?
Excuse me, moron.
Not only is a job benefit NOT the same as a handout, the college program needs to be paid into (through an already-meager paycheck) before it becomes available.
Your ignorance is stinking up the thread. Leave.
Or you could stop being arrogant and see that he asked a question, not made a statement, moron.
Your insensitivity is disgracing this thread. Be gone.
…no. Not for most people. And even if you do elect that type of benefit, you still get a crazy rate of return that no other college savings fund could approach. Nice try, though.
Oh and now you’re dead because you got shot while out serving the interests of the big companies you love defending. Good job.
I like how this man thinks.
The free college isn’t a hand out. Not even close. It’s a benefit of enlisting in the military. It’s earned, not handed out. I’m prior military and I have all my classes, books, and my rent paid every semester. I also have my groceries, insurance, and gas paid by the scholarships and grants I actually took the time to apply for. I also have left over free money to go and travel whenever I want. I may not be part of the 1% but I’m able to live like one because I know how life works and I know how to work it.
If you’re still a kid in school, pay attention and get your life straight or else “Real Life” is gonna kick your ass.
If you’re an “adult” already and you’re still slacking around, step up your game because I know you don’t want to be that 34 year old guy getting bossed around or fired by some 20 year old kid.
Anyways, I’m about to reach the top of the hill on this here ski-lift.
Take it easy and QUIT FOKIN COMPLAINING!!!
Finnally someone who actually believes in hard work and doesnt want to sit on there ass for their whole life and life off benifits that are paid for by people who work hard.
I hate all of you communist trolls
wtf!? You like hard work but you hate communism? But that’s what communism is, everyone work the same amount for the same amount of pay. If you are payed more, you are payed the same level as people of your position are doing.
Or is it, someone of interest is elected head of party or population and is entitled to making decisions on behalf of the people, because thats more like republics and totalitarians.
totalitarian/republican/neutral/democrat/communist
its get more extreme when it goes more left or right
I’m a communist and I believe in hard work, kinda how it works bro. You mad?
If communism is so great, why don’t you go move to China? We won’t miss you, trust me.
China isn’t communist. It was founded on communist ideas and turned into an oligarchy. It’s now turning into a democracy.
But we love you! Working men and women unite…..into a group hug on Nick Smith.
YAY HUGGLES!!!!
I hate all of you ignorant and assumption-based trolls with similar tactics to that of McCarthyism.
They aren’t wanting free handouts, they are wanting the end of money in politics.
I am the educated 1% of memebase.
Considering most politicians are driven by greed and power, you’ll never see the end of money in politics.
I am the realistic 1% of memebase.
Yeah, as of right now, I have good enough grades, get involved in school, and have some good opportunities for education, so that even though I’m poor, I have a good future ahead and I can change my life and my status. I’m going to work for what I want to have, because if America insists on the smart people having the better life, then I guess I have no choice but to take advantage of it.
However, there are those who aren’t like me, who simply succeed through already being rich and not even working for anything. THOSE kinds of people are the ones I’m against. Unless everyone makes an effort to succeed, our system isn’t even a true capitalist system. I don’t want my success handed to me, and I don’t want it handed to other people. We all need to make an effort, and I’m going to make my own effort by working as hard as I can.
Psst.
It doesn’t take education to ignore what the protesters actually demand, invent a demand that only 1% of them espouse when not in front of a TV camera, and pretend that your chosen spin reflects reality.
We’re much better listening to your assumptions instead. Not.
Yes, you are the 1%. Only 1% of world works hard, only you and a few select elites are the “1%”. So I assume you either own a grand majority or a natural resource, minerals, oils or foods, into some kind of political affairs. You are that 1% that, if you decide that your globally large firm will contribute billions (more than anyone else in the history of the world can) to political campaigns, not just to one, but apparently to all candidates regardless of political position, then yes you are the 1%.
But wait, you say u work as hard as you can and are rewarded, so does that mean countries that have fallen to the grand majority literally dying out from either civil war or lack of food, arn’t trying? Of course not right? they didnt work hard to make companies, donate vasts amounts to support military units to help them, they don’t send troops to any opposition wheather it be real (middle east uprisings) or in the beginning stages (occupy wall street), and destroy them. If you don’t shoot protestors, they’re not gonna let the wealthy be weathly huh?
It’s disgraceful huh? How a bunch of people left britain, simply decided to make theyre own colonies and NOT give they’re money to the Crown overseas? Those soilders should be ashamed they’re not part of the 1% huh?
Did you even attempt to reply to any point, or make any sense whatsoever for that matter, or did you just vomit all over the keyboard?
I fail to see how your post relates to Hunter’s post in the slightest. He went out, worked, made an effort, and now lives comfortably. Why are you rambling about natural resources? What do you mean when you talk about all these other countries? You are aware the “I am the 99%” refers specifically to people within the country they’re protesting in, right? Sending money to other countries to starving people doesn’t come into it, it’s about balancing wealth within the nation.
All in all…. dafuq?
^THIS
Stephen. I love you.
Thank you!!
I love the idea that 1% of people do hard work. Yeah, you’re the only one out there towing the line. The rest of the 98% of people are all not working hard for what they have.
The only % of anything you are, is the 10% annoying guys in the office who don’t understand issues at all, but have loud opinions about them that they heard on drive-time radio.
19 year old has IT business. Thinks he knows everything. Thinks he has 20 years experience. Sorry, you’re not the 1%.
Oh my sweet little rat. oh how you fail to see beyond your cheese. Enjoy feeling like your 80 years old when you are really only 25.
* Unless I get shot in the head while deployed.
lol You guys are killing me, saying Veterans are getting a handout with their GI Bill. It’s a benefit Veterans get for sacrificing their lives. And while you’re serving in the military, you put in work, so the GI Bill is a way of paying you back for your service.
This guy’s obviously been in Afghanistan or Iraq too long.
I bet your opinion is much better formed by taking all arguments from the intellectual community in account and applying your own individual reason and ethical views I bet you don’t just follow the crowd.
Wow. That is probably the biggest scumbag in the history of scumbags. He goes into the army for money? What kind of man would kill people just for a paycheck?
why are we supposed to respect these guys? When you hear a story about a dad going off too fight the war, why does everyone think it’s okay? Is it really okay to leave your family? Isn’t the american dream owning a house and raising a family happily together? Not being separated! The dad could get killed, the mom could be devastated, and the kids might not grow up to really know their dad that well. And I’m sure his parents miss him. That’s not being brave. That’s just being a jerk!
This guy is obviously ignorant of what 99%/1% mean. He is clearly the 99%. I don’t think he’s going to make $350,000 in the army…
By the time i clicked this earlier today i knew it would attract you stupid tard stereotypes, explains all of the comments.
Yesseree, Bub. Because naturally EVERYONE who works hard and follows the rules will be successful and rich. Yep. You bet.
How can this guy act like he’s any better than the OWS protestors? He’s just another lazy freeloader that expects the government to pay for his college.
This guy is an absolute moron. He has completely missed the point of the 99%. They don’t want free handouts, and anyone who thinks that is just as idiotic as this fool.
I work three jobs. I work 7 days a week. I’m also a part time student. I don’t want free handouts. I want, and do, earn everything I work my ass off for. However, like the Occupy protestors, I am beyond tired of the politics of this country being bought.
The idea that anyone would consider that I am whining about handouts just because I support, and am part of, the 99% just shows how ignorant the morons of this damn country can be.
Yeah, because you’re living on a government salary. Real impressive, buddy.
Also, once you get back, Iraqi vets have a higher percentage of unemployment than the rest of that. So good luck with that too.
So true. xD
i have to say, i’m kind of appalled at the vitriol under this picture. do you people seriously think i joined the military so i can go destroy things and kill people and rack up a body count? i joined so idiots like you can stay home and think your better than me. that’s cool with me. i got accepted to embry-riddle university, one of the most prestigious aviation colleges in the US. but i turned them down and enlisted. so it’s not like i couldn’t find a job or i was too stupid to be successful elsewhere. i turned it down so ya’ll can have a better life than me. stop being so selfish.
The problem is that most of the people commenting in this thread simply don’t see your decision as something worth praising; frankly they see it as reckless, illogical, and something to ridicule.
I don’t think that at all, however I do not support any military activity this country has involved itself in since about a month after we assassinated Hussein. (I figure: get in, kill the bastard, get out, go home, done deal. Nooooope.)
I respect the kid for his service but he is very obviously young and naive if he believes that college will “guarantee” him a job, regardless of his experience or area of study.
the 99% is just looking for a scapegoat for all the economy when they should be blaming obama for trying to cover a boken bone with a box of bandaids
Oh, I’m sorry. You seemed to have written “Obama” when surely you know that the economy tanked due to Bush policies, while Bush was still in office.
It’s gotten worse with Obama policies while Obama’s been in office, you can’t blame that on Bush. Not saying Bush was the best or anything, but his policies didn’t hurt the economy far enough to not have a quick recovery. Obama has now only worsened the economy, making his policies worse then Bush’s
Yea, but history shows that, whenever things are bad, so are the president’s ratings, no matter who the president is. And history also shows that when congress disagrees with the president, forget progress. They’re lucky if they can decide on a lunch together, and despite of powerful the president is, he can not do a lot if congress disagrees.
Clearly, I don’t blame obama, but I think he’s pretty lame for someone who is supposed to run a country. I blame every person in senate and house of representatives. I also blame the electoral college, because that system of voting is outdated and it just really bothers me.
broken*
Isn’t this guy receiving money from the government?
Yes, irony biting his ass.
I contribute to his salary. I pay taxes.
1% of 99%? How does this make any sense!?
He is the .99%
it makes sense. if you can count. which you clearly can’t.
Finally, a person I can agree with. Stay strong bro.
about 3/4 of these comments make me sick to my stomach, thanks for showing respect for a U.S. serviceman. i know some people commenting aren’t from the U.S., but at the very least show some respect. Most of you wouldn’t have the balls to serve your country and go into a warzone. I on the other hand do. I leave for my BCT and AIT in April for Infantry. I am willing to go to the front line so our government doesn’t implement the draft and make you go. I could easily get a job building and maintaining powerplants, dams, oil rigs, wind turbines, etc, because thats what i went to school for. However the defense of my country and the people in it is more important to me.
Respect must be given to be earned.
*Is ineligible for the draft*
Sorry but you chose to go into it. Nobody forced you to hence I don’t really care. It’s a job like everyone else’s but you knew the risks going it would include possible death or severe injury.
Probably 100% of the people posting on this board ARE the 99%. If you’re not grossing over around 500K a year then you’re all just fish in the 99% bucket and siding with the lofty 1% isn’t going to gain you anything when it all comes crashing down and your job gets shipped overseas. You’re completely missing the point and playing the game they want you to by dividing and fighting among ourselves. The 99% is about having a fair chance in a great country where once the American Dream was an easily achievable goal, given hard work and the drive to succeed. Can’t believe so many people are not noticing this slipping away rapidly. Wages are down, the cost of living is sky high, education is becoming only a privilege for the rich – good luck with those loans when you graduate and can’t find a well paying job, jobs are scarce, pretty soon it won’t matter if you work 3 jobs as hard as you can, you still won’t be anywhere near the American Dream. Stop drinking the Kool aid. The 99% don’t want handouts – they want a fair chance. That’s what this country was founded on and I can’t think of anything more patriotic than that.
Rational, eloquent, well-thought-out comments have no place on the internet! Pick a side and start calling the other side f*gs, or get out!
Lol, seriously though, well said.
Why the f*ck is this on memebase?
So much I want to say to this person…
And I was in the military too. I was injured in the line of duty, I was forced out because of the injury and now I’m injured and unemployed (with a college degree). He can stfu.
what kind of injury? So you can’t even find casual work?
he’ll be the 1% when he drives over a IED hahahah
Wow, Prick, I hope you fall in a very large hole and stay there.
Don’t feed the trolls; it just encourages them.
Cool story, I’m not gonna lie, I have no problems in life right now. Seems like i’m the only one not giving a damn and loving life.
Plus these protest are kinda awesome. I love seeing newfags get beat by police.
A decent message in not-so-decent handwriting. I could barely read it.
IT is a wacky world. There are more professionals in IT who dropped out of high school than those who finished their degree in MIS or even had any formal college education at all. That, too, is changing, however, as universities wise up and start offering more degrees with a program oriented bent. I would suggest you put aside some of your savings from your job and keep in mind that in IT, you’re only worth as much as your latest certification without a college degree. I also hope your company is willing to shell out the cash for your certifications rather than asking you to pay for them on your own, since some of the highest ones cost $3-4,000…
I love how there are a bunch of military dudes out there that go on memebase. XD
Well done Op. I’ve never seen such a sh!tstorm around here since pedobear memes.
maybe it’s because you’re in the military…. dumbass.
Now there’s someone who doesn’t know anything he didn’t learn on FOX news.
This poor bastard has no idea . . . he’s in for a rude awakening. I hope his superiors prepare him for it.
Much love.
- An officer in the US Army
LMAO. Thank you.
do people still not understand the economy crashed when people took lones from the banks that they couldn’t afford to pay back?
Technically yes, but over simplified. The economy took a bit of a dip and suddenly some people with loans, most of them the wonderful sub prime loans could not pay them back. It crashed because the banks had borrowed (they call it leveraged) over 3000% (yes 30 dollars on the dollar, that’s not a typo) against those loans. So yes, the economy crashed when people took out loans they couldn’t afford to pay back, and those people were the 1%.
As well as the government taking loans from countries. Our debt may not be a direct factor, but it still affects everything and it will become the focus, hopefully within a few years.
yes, the banks were totally blameless in handing out those loans right? banks encouraged people to borrow more than they could possibly afford, then stood around scratching their heads when the housing market tanked.
to be honest tho, i’m not getting shot at by protesting on wallstreet…..
No, no, no. You’d rather get shot defending a bigmac from brown people!
TROLL ALL THE MEMES!
Then he graduates college with huge debt, finds out that the job he was dreaming of most likely doesn’t exist where he is or doesn’t wanna hire a “just graduated” guy and then he commits Sepaku after having to settle for a low paying job and realizing he sounded like a huge douche.
His debt from college might not be that bad, or may not even exist. He is entitled as a member of the Armed Forces to get the free-college-education GI Bill.
So… free education out of taxpayers’ money? Like it should be for every single citizen? Just extend this to the whole population and you’ll have a much fairer system.
Yes the tax payers pay in exchange for risking his life for his country… are you stupid or something son? Hasn’t anyone ever told you that you can’t get something for nothing? How do you expect to pay teachers? and admins? and uni janitors, cooks, ect.? You get free education in this nation through highschool, then you make your own grade. State schools are still extremely cheap. DEAL.
Are you retarded, Smarterthanyouexceptnot? How does a GI in Iraq or Afghanistan or whatever oil-filled country the US is invading protects his country? What could they do? Ban the oil (considering 70% of it comes from the US itself, that wouldn’t be very effective now would it?)? Declare war (which would result in the same situation you’re in now)? My yes, I am very happy to have these people keeping the tradition of killing people and getting away with it alive.
Yes, that’s exactly right. Because I killed so many innocents over there while I was in Iraq and Afghanistan. Shame on me for returning fire on guys trying to kill me for handing out food!
And I have all the oil from the country I invaded hidden in a secret cave underneath my barracks so I don’t have to share it with the rest of America, who has to pay increasing gas prices even after we’ve obviously stolen all the oil from the middle east from our “invasion”
Idiot…
Every citizen doesn’t put there life on line everyday for 4+ years.
YAY! I can’t WAIT for EVERYWHERE to be like California! Free college for all! Financial toilet, begin your flushing!!
Worked for Great Britian pretty well.
Great Britain also has 1/6th the population and 1/16th the size of the US. Not everything can scale up correctly or as intended.
Army Jerk has missed the entire point. I wish I had the lack of morals to kill for money. And before someone says ‘zomgs, what if he just loves he countriz’ then cool, if that is the case, hand back the money and his college hand out. Surely this is a troll.
Not all people in the military “kill for money” as you so eloquently put it. You don’t know much about anything do you? By joining the SERVICE, and doing your country a SERVICE, they offer to pay your tuition. Got that ignoramus?
surely you are an idiot
Oh my God….f*cking morons. It’s not about getting free handouts. It’s about preventing the rich getting richer by questionable/illegal practices that they get away with all the time. It’s about wanting THEM to stop getting handouts when they’re already rich and just get more at the EXPENSE of the 99%. Capitalism is ruining this country. So are morons who don’t get message and assume it’s their own made up explanation. Christ. The fact is, this country had been being run by rich ass big wigs for a while now, and it needs to stop, it’s ruining this country. If the rich were subject to all of the same rules the little people were, this country as a whole would be doing so much better economically.
But no, they have everything, continue to take handouts, write themselves bonuses, basically get away with murder just to get more and more money…and you complain about the 99% wanting “handouts”. Get a friggin’ clue, idiots.
On a side note: I haven’t even cared about this whole occupy crap until people started twisting the message. Personally, I think what they’re doing is pointless and isn’t going to change a damn thing. BUT the message IS NOT “come on, we want money for nothing”.
Tell that to the whiners taking pictures of themselves holding up signs, like the one which says her husband left and now she has to take care of her two children by herself and it’s hard. Or the people complaining about taking out way too many loans because it took them too damn long to get a degree in women’s studies, as though that is actually a viable career. The message is not being twisted by the observer, your cause got high-jacked by a bunch of whiny 18 to 24-year-olds that realized too late being well-versed in art history does not get you a job in the real world, and you have to work from the bottom up.
“Oh my God….f*cking morons. It’s not about getting free handouts. It’s about preventing the rich getting richer by questionable/illegal practices that they get away with all the time”
You mean Congress and the Obama administration?
Excellent, I expect the US government can afford to hire all 13.9 million American unemployed……they can’t without raising taxes? Awwww….why can’t conservatives be RIGHT for once? Reality is so unfair.
Don’t let’ this poster fool you, plenty of service men and women as well as veterans on the side of Occupy Wall Street. This isn’t a case of soldier spirit vs. laziness.
Hmm, free food, free place to live, no utilities, guaranteed job after college … yup no handouts here. I respect and appreciate everything soldiers do for us, but please, STFU, the “99%” believe in hard work too, they just don’t like 1% of the population crashing the economy to make themselves extra rich extra fast and then getting away with it because they made themselves extra rich!
I hope you realize they get ‘free food’, ‘free place to live’, ‘no utilities’ and guaranteed job because they’re risking their lives for their country. Being in the military isn’t a goddamn walk in the park.
I actually know this guy personally. He does not live on base, and never has. He works his tail off to support his wife and his two children. They BOUGHT their first home right after high school and have never asked for a handout. As for free college…… that is part of the COMPENSATION every soldier receives for the service they give this country. NOT A HANDOUT.
Cool, now can we get to the part where he’s completely wrong about what the protest on wall street is all about? Or do you agree with me there?
And he feels compelled to be a preachy bastard about it? F*ck him.
Yes. He’s a preachy little parson about it.
Just like every single person on Wall Street.
Only…um…he has a valid point. Unlike the REST of those morons.
Well um no he doesn’t. Let’s go over some other jobs that require putting your life at risk everyday and their compensation.
Police: pay decent generally below average, benefits poor compared to most jobs, obviously dangerous, free school usually not definitly not gauranteed.
Fire Department : same as police however some aren’t paid.
Both of them can have benefits and pay changed without their consent.
Military recieves a housing stipend, food stipend, clothing stipend, forced low intrest loans, finiancial compensation for prior loans, tuition assistance, low tax rates, plus free health care and insurance.
All are dangerous but obviously not equal.
I actually couldn’t help but comment–housing stipends are only for married couples, military members with children, or for the higher enlisted and officer ranks. Your straight out of boot camp, single E-3? Doesn’t get a housing stipend. And if you live in a house on base (if you’re lucky enough to get it) you don’t get that money. That money, if you get it, is NEVER enough for rent. $600 a month for rent in Monterey, CA? HA! When I lived out there, that wouldn’t cover a studio apartment. The food stipend, again, isn’t much if you’re single. It was $200 a month when I was in, back in 2003. Clothing stipends? They’re for replacing worn uniforms, not for all clothing, they’re paid out once a year, and it’s maybe enough to put some gas in your car. The free health care is a JOKE. I almost died because a military doctor refused to test me for Mono. I tested negative for Strep, so he sent me back with a day off. Three days later, I went back on my on volition, INSISTED on the test, and was told when the result was positive that if I’d waited until the end of the day, I would’ve died.
I can’t speak to the loan matters, because it was never something I dealt with while in the military. But you know what’s the key difference between the military and other dangerous public service jobs? *You can quit those other jobs*. You can’t quit the military. You might be able to find a way out, but it’s hard to do without some pretty sucky consequences (like getting pregnant [which really is good OR bad, depending on your situation] or breaking a law). Literally any job I’ve had since being in the military, no matter how much I hated it, I’ve always said to myself, “Hey, at least I can quit if it gets to be too bad.” Anything you deal with in any other job, whether it’s a boss you don’t like, or being assigned to a new office in a different part of the country, is that much worse, because you’re stuck for 4-6 years, baby.
Oh and military gets free air travel for got about that one.
LOL! What!?!?!? I’ve been in the US Marines for 7 years, and haven’t got one free flight anywhere, except to Afghanistan and back!
By the way, please spell and punctuate correctly. It’s pretty bad when a Jarhead has to correct you
So then if he lives off “base” he is getting BAH pay for housing instead of having his housing provided. Lots of people work their tails off and don’t get all the perks that a soldier gets…take the police, for example. They risk their lives for our safety (and on a much more immediate basis) and don’t get money for their houses or college paid for.
I’m sorry, but those benefits are a handout. And he may be a good guy, as you say, but he’s obviously misinformed and his attitude does not become him – or the uniform. His condescending opinion is a bad representation of the rest of us who serve but don’t think we are better than everyone else just because of that.
its not a handout its called a job incentive, maybe if you had a job instead of spending all day trimming your disgusting hipster mustache and shopping at “vintage” stores and salvy then maybe you’d know that.
A guy I know is the California National Guard. As a result, he gets free healthcare, free food while on active duty, probably other stuff, too.
He was on a cross-country trip to help a friend move, and made it maybe 1/4 of the way, when he damaged his knee. When he got to their destination, he ended up being stuck for several months there because of the injury. He received surgery and rehabilitation, doctor visits, all that stuff, with no cost to himself. Even though he wasn’t on active duty, the military took care of him.
As well they should! But I think everyone should have that same benefit, whether in the armed forces or not.
That may be something that the CA National Guard offers, but certainly not ALL states National Guard offers this. National Guard is primarily state controlled and funded. I have been active army and national guard both, there is a HUGE difference in the operations of both.
I wonder how this 1% likes the news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15703997
Look everybody, what the kid is saying is not what most of you believe, and it probably upsets you. But please stop harassing him, calling him a murderer, wishing he was dead, calling him a baby killer. Coming from an Iraq war veteran that enlisted in the Marine Corps, I can promise you if he has taken a life, he is not proud of it, and does not talk about it. And remember he is probably less than 25 years old, he is young and naive, and you should realize that and just ignore it. People need to grow up and just respect the man for his service. Because I know damn well 99 percent of you have not served and never will. You need to experience the military before labeling it.
Why should we respect him for serving? These wars are for nothing. He made the decision to risk his life for nothing. If I decide to jump off of a building and risk my life, should I demand everyone’s respect? No, because if I want to risk my life for no reason at all, that is my prerogative.
But he did it thinking that it wasn’t pointless. He WAS naive. He probably has someone he cares about here in the U.S. If he risks his life thinking he is doing good, then I would respect him, and pity him as well.
I will respect him as much as I respect anyone else I meet, but I will not show him ‘extra’ respect because he decided to risk his life for nothing. I don’t wish him or any of our other soldiers any harm, but I will not pretend that they are sacrificing for my benefit and act as if I owe them something.
Keep saying it’s for nothing, until you need one of those soldiers to protect you. I am a veteran, I may not agree with the wars, but I did my part. I enlisted on the ideal that there may be times I have to do something I don’t agree with, but was willing to lay down my life to protect others if the circumstance arose. It doesn’t matter what the war was/is about, what matters is the mentality of the people that join the armed forces. They are willing to DIE for YOU. No matter the circumstance, yes, that does mean they are to be respected.
Why don’t we take all the oil in the world and just give it to America instead of them marching into a third world country country and taking it anyway? This ” noble deed” of joining the army ,especially the US army, is basically your government saying : ” we want what they have, drop bombs on them and leave nothing behind except the fillings in their teeth”. I think a few third world countries would favor this idea because anyone dumb enough to join a cause that involves killing someone, seriously needs to question what they are really doing. War is all about money and greed. That’s it.
http://politicons.net/occupy-fail-wall-street-made-more-money-in-2-5-years-of-obama-than-8-years-of-bush/
“Occupy Fail. Wall Street Made More Money In 2.5 Years Of Obama Than 8 Years Of Bush”
Anyone hear think that the OWS Idiots want to listen to reality and start protesting an Administration that IS IN FACT THE WORST IN HISTORY AT KISSING WALL STREET BUTT? Not a chance in their weak little minds.
The moron partisan hacks at MSNBC used to call the Tea Party “Astroturf”,” in fact the OWS movement has paid protesters because OWS IS IN FACT THE ASTROTURF CROWD IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
Hi, why do you think OWS is happening now, during Obama’s term?
Sorry guys…I was in the Navy for 7 years, got out, got a really great job immediately. Oh…and if you know how to apply for grants and work for the system, the G.I. Bill WILL pay for everything, including housing. I suggest going to talk to a school counselor.
Yay for free government handouts to you!
They aren’t handouts they are called job incentives, you would know what that was if you had a job. My COMPANY paid for 95% of my masters degree from any college I wanted, and pays for my health insurance, dental, and eye. I can also choose to not take the benefits and get more money in my check per month and purchase my own health insurance. Don’t cry to me because your not useful to society right now.
More like government gifts for serving in our fine military, which isn’t per-se EASY, as you most likely would never know.
Idiot.
Don’t you just love it when dumbass civilians assume that all members of the armed forces Kill people EVERY SINGLE F*CKING DAY?
You mean you don’t? I killed six before first formation this morning.
THIS is a real man. He isn’t pounding a drum and running around with a cutsy sign. He doesn’t have a 5 star chef feeding him at the end of a long day. Let’s talk about the rapes in the OWS camps, the thefts, the drugs, the disease due to filth. OWS has become a joke. When will they realize it?
those of you who have never been in the military or deployed to iraq or afghanistan do not understand the hardship that this soldier faces, he works 90 hours a week, has no time off, and is in constant danger of being killed or crippled for the rest of his life. To call him a fool, lazy or a coward is being foolish. This young man works harder than anyone of you, and is entitled to the benefits that he is entitled to when he joined. So instead of complaining about the military, take a step back and realize you understand nothing of what he has done.
Those of you who are in the military or deployed to Iraq do not understand the hardship the unemployed face. He works full-time putting in applications for no money, then doesn’t get a job because even the most menial opening has 200 applicants. He is in constant danger of losing his car, his job, his house, and his family. These young men work harder than you realize, and are entitled to a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work. So instead of complaining about the unemployed take a step back and realize you have no understanding of what they have done.
The unemployed should stop blaming everyone else for their poor life choices. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who gets a useless degree then complains about not being able to get a job, anyone who has a baby when they’re already living paycheck to paycheck, or anyone who lives beyond their means.
I understand what the unemployed have done: absolutely jack all compared to the brave men and women who are overseas fighting every day.
People should stop assuming all unemployed are lazy and ignorant and realize that such an opinion is both ignorant and flat out wrong. Derp, you are a moron. None of the things you have stated have anything to do with being umemployed. For all of us in the military please eat a bullet.
Those who are unemployed… must apply at different jobs than I do.
Amen brother
That was for hellfish, not the other guy
Dude. PREEEACH IT.
Sacrifice? Some might argue that refusing to sell out your beliefs for money is a sacrifice. I’m not going to kill people for money, and you aren’t better than me because you do.
Why does everything think just because you’re in the military you kill people. I can’t think of any reason you would kill someone while in the coast guard, navy, or air force (other than pilots). As for the army it completely depends on your MOS. And the Marine Corps? well. Don’t join the Marine Corps :p
How is wanting employment asking for a free handout?
What he’s forgetting is that his wage is being paid by the people that actually work.
Oh I’m sorry I did not chose to make my living by murdering children in the middle east!
Wow that is such a laughable naive comment. Not everyone in the military kills people…. And they are over there fighting a war not killing children. Wow just Wow.
How about next time you post your opinion, you don’t copypasta from 4chan newfag?
Why is it easier to believe that 150,000,000 Americans are being lazy rather then 400 Americans are being greedy?
You’re also part of the percentage that helped to steal the wealth to which we aren’t entitled, as well as the percentage that wasn’t shot in the process. Too bad you couldn’t have been an engineer.
Meanwhile, far away from this flame war in a U.S. military base…
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Oh … my … god. I might have to marry that guy.
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You’re arrogant and naive, just like the soldier in the picture.
Really? The simple fact is is that americans are finally getting off their lazy asses and trying to do something about their country and you’re discouraging that? You should promote them for finally doing something instead of complaining about it. Finally after years this country is waking up and beginning to protest again. Just because you decided to become a dog to corrupt politicians doesn’t mean everyone else should. Don’t discourage them because this protest could awaken the rest of america and we can finally get this ridiculous excuse for a country back on track.
A dog? So does this mean all the men and women serving in the U.S. military are a bunch of dogs? They’re just a bunch of animals following their master’s orders? I wish people like you would just leave this country and if you don’t live here then thank you and stay away. He never said anything to imply that we should all join the military. This was simply what HE did to make something of himself and those in the “occupy wall street” do something else besides whine.
Take some pride in your troops they’re one of the many reasons you can even sit down at your computer and post degrading comments.
Dog tags. Your patriotic propaganda is invalid.
call them that while in the military and do so many pushups an indent of your hands is in the ground.
they are called ID TAGS, jackass. now who’s invalid?
Erm everyone in our unit says dog tags even our D.I.
I.D. tags point revalidated
this guy Orly is honestly one of the dumbest people on this site.
“Protesting” is not “doing something.” The Occupy guys are lazy whiners, wanting a handout. Get it straight; they are NOT the unemployed – most of them have jobs, they just want free stuff from the government.
^ This.
99% of the 99% have completely missed the point of Occupy Wall Street. OWS was never meant to be for people to blame someone else for their self-made, or self-solvable problems.
It’s not the fault of the 1% when someone decides to get $50,000 in student loans to get a B.A. and then can’t get a job to pay it back. What kind of job did you think you were going to get with a B.A.? I think Starbucks is hiring.
It’s not the fault of the 1% that you might lose your house because your husband lost his job. If he’s gone that long without being able to find another job, don’t you think maybe it’s time to either sell the house, or, at the very least, move into a smaller one?
It’s not the fault of the 1% that you’re living paycheck to paycheck. Reevaluate your situation, see where you can cut costs (do you smoke? do you buy junk food? can you buy store brand instead of name brand?). Can you get a cheaper apartment?
There are solutions to most of the protesters’ problems. It’s just easier to blame someone else and wallow in self-pity.
Also, ^ this
One of the points being made by OWS is that the 1% don’t have to do that, and the 99% work just as hard as they do, if not harder, so why should they (the 99%) have to?
Two points.
One, what good will promotions do for him if he’s just going to quit and go to college? (His paper says he’ll be paid next year to go to school; I’m not sure if that means he plans to leave the military next year, or if it means he will qualify by then, but is going later. I believe it’s the former and he’s planning for college next year.)
Two, Guaranteed job? That worries me. The only colleges that sway you about guaranteed jobs are those for-profit schools. Much of the time, the soldiers get ripped off by these schools. Their credits don’t transfer to regular college, and many companies don’t consider them real degrees. If this is this guy’s case, he may be in for a rude awakening.
to your first point: you can go to college while actively enlisted in the military. derp.
didn’t read the rest, figured your second point was a good indication of what the second would hold in store.
And to your second point, you may have guessed… He is still going to be in the military when he gets out of college. Pretty secure job, if you ask me.
Because the whole world should choose getting yelled at and shot at as a regular job.
Nothing should scare you more than a world full of only soldiers. NOTHING. You’re the 1% of dumbasses who thinks the military is for everyone.
^ Second that.
Hard work means nothing if you get laid off due to budget cuts and you can’t find another job in your field, despite plenty of experience, because you didn’t get a degree.
I’ve seen it happen. You got lucky, not everyone has that kind of luck.
hedshawt should have aimed for the point (of occupy) cuz if he did, he wouldn’t have missed it
I know I don’t have all the facts on this guy, then again few of the us do. Maybe he has a relative who will give him a job when he gets out. Perhaps he will buy a Nissan Versa instead of a high-end Charger (sigh, like some people I know) with some extra deployment money. Additionally, there are jobs out there for veterans if you have a high-level security clearance. Perhaps this man does. In either case, working part-time with the GI bill could pay more than some undergraduates make after college. All the while with zero student loan debt. Seems like this soldier is taking full advantage of his enlistment and everything he has EARNED from it. With a genuine shot at success and the betterment of his situation we should be happy for him. Haters gonna hate.
Taking advantage of his enlistment is one thing, but s***ting on the rest of us because we’re not willing to go out to some remote desert and shoot people for money removes any semblance of respect I have for the man. I hope the next IED our soldiers discover over there is planted firmly in this ***hole’s ***hole, and that he is the only casualty of the ensuing explosion.
not sure if trolling or doesn’t know that there are more jobs in the military that don’t involve shooting people than there are that do.
^this <3
I LIKE TURLTES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The most sensible comment in this entire thread!
So you suggest that we all join the military and bankrupt the country that way? We aren’t complaining that life’s too hard. We’re complaining that our government isn’t working in everyone’s best interest. We’re not looking for handouts, we’re looking for new policies to fix our government. But the fact that the 1% of Americans basically have the say in what happens with politics, it’s not going to be as easy as just asking for it. We have to make a stand. Occupy Wall Street is the best thing we could possibly do. And if you don’t believe that it’s true that only the wealthy influence politics, then look up even something little like the DSHEA. If that example exists, then there definitely are more.
Thank you sir for fighting in a foreign country and making them hate me which supposedly has some significance on my freedom to say “You’re a f*cking c*nt”
Bless out boys.
Because they loved us on September 11, 2001.
Wait, no, I forgot. That was a George Bush conspiracy, wasn’t it?
I think JFK was in on it, too!
I did some research, and I’ve concluded that it goes all the way back to the Taft presidency.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu4jz458ut1r4k4dho1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1321304106&Signature=0lwMumSCPeG16qQAXy9U8yCe%2Bbk%3D
Make no mistake, you are NOT part of the 1% that we are protesting. You are part of the 99% unless you’re a millionaire serving in the army for fun. And I’m glad you have the opportunity to go to college, you definetly need an education.
You should probably learn how to spell before you tell someone that else that THEY need an education.
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Really? Being a Soldier is a Public Service? Like the meter maid or mail man?…..
Yes being a soldier is a public service. They are performing a service for their country (the public) and the public thanks them by paying for their sallary, benefits, and education. Who do you think pays their check?
Yup, it is. Its a service to one’s nation and thus a service to the people of that nation. They fight for US right? Not to belittle ‘em, but its the truth.
Hit by a semi? Pics or it didn’t happen.
Quit crying.
Yeah, cause i’m totally crying. I’m not going to make up an accident just to prove my point, I’m not a pathetic little punk that wants attention, I was just using it as an example. When I get home I will gladly post my pics on here for you to see, not that I should.
Glad his life is on track, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t people getting away with things that shouldn’t. Protests are more about fairness than “handouts”.
You could argue the benefits and entitlements he gets as being part of the military are no less “handouts” than funding education, not gutting medicare and social security and actually holding people accountable for action despite their class.
“Protests are more about fairness than “handouts”. ” You should try telling that to the rest of the 99%.
They’re trying to get handouts? I’m not following your reasoning, probably because there isn’t any.
uh, FINALLY. f*ck this stupid wallstreet protest. ive seen it in new york city and it’s a bunch of homeless people doing jack nothing. I saw a sign that said “Down with the 1%, join the Communist revolution!”
Seriously? This protest had a good basis but it has gotten out of control and has become a joke.
Okay okay okay… I’m very supportive of our fighting men and women and all, but this guy is missing two big points. 1) his money and benefits and education are all paid for by the government with taxpayer money. 2) in order to get said money and benefits and education he is asked to kill, be killed, or be a lucky bastard who actually finishes his service without either of those happening.
That’s like a prostitute bragging about making big wads of cash every night, and all it took was a little sacrifice. So while I respect you Army man for your sacrifice, I disrespect you for your disrespect of everyone who didn’t join the army (including those who can not join, such as the disabled, gay people up until recently, and people who have no desire to kill or be killed). Let’s not forget that many of the homeless and jobless are veterans too.
…Lucky bastards?…
Okay, for one, a mere fraction of a percent of us die in combat.
And second, i wish I could see you now, and have you say this to my face, calling me a lucky bastard after my brothers died in combat.
You didn’t die in combat, which makes you a “lucky b*stard” compared to your brothers (may they rest in peace), who unfortunately did die in combat. You came back home alive.
Oh man, you must be REALLY trying hard– CAPS LOCK lets me know you’re serious. Too bad; TL; DR
My family is part of the 1%. No, my dad is not a corrupt CEO, no my dad is not a dishonest banker, he is a doctor
A doctor who went through college, medical school, and residency to get where he is today. And no, his parents didn’t pay for it, he came from a poor family. He payed completely on his own, managing school and work.
Get off your lazy asses Occupy Wall Street and maybe you could be in the same place!
Fake, pics or it didn’t happen.
You missed half the point of OWS, congratulation, you are a tool.
well then, o smart one maybe you can tell me the point to Occupy Wall Street if you’re so keen on the subject.
Have you read a single news story about them? The point you’re looking for is in just about every one:
http://www.npr.org/2011/11/06/142079828/what-do-occupy-wall-street-protesters-want
http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2011/10/10/what-is-occupy-wall-street/
http://www.thenation.com/blog/164301/what-occupy-wall-street-about
That’s funny, because I did the same thing. Worked my ass off through school, took out a ton of loans (since my parents were rather poor at the time), and finally, after months of searching, got a decent paying job. I worked my way up, and now I’m the CTO of a company.
But you know what? I was lucky. There were government programs I was able to take advantage of to help me get there. As a white male, society was on my side. I had parents that encouraged me to do the best I could. It just so happened that what I decided to pursue in college was of high value in the job world.
Not everyone is your dad, and not everyone is me.
The fact that you think all of OWS is lazy definitely tells me you’re part of the 1%. You’re clearly out of touch with reality, and clearly don’t pay attention to what OWS is trying to convey. Why would a bunch of lazy good for nothings be protesting about the lack of jobs? I don’t understand how that’s asking for a handout. Since when did the strong desire to work equal lazyness?
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I think you missed the underlying point of this. He’s saying that the “99%” can actually be divided up into more percentages of people like you, who are avidly pursuing jobs and failing, kids fresh out of college that got a pointless degree that was a waste of money and would never apply to a career, lazy dumb asses that don’t care to have a job, but still want to complain about being poor, etc. etc.
what a child. get out in the REAL world, live a little, then get back to me on all the magic you were promised that *should* have happened because you “worked hard”. a lot of people work hard, only a ignorant kid would delude themselves into thinking THEY are the only one who’d working hard and the roads are paved with gold in the land of milk and honey if you just WORK for it and everyone else is just being lazy. grow up! and when you are horribly wounded serving so you can have free but “hand out free” college, will your new “promised” but hand out free, job be okay with you not being able to walk? or hear well? or maybe even talk? or that you need time off because you have health issues? or that you are a complete arrogant a h0le because you have mental issues from war? i doubt it sweetie. your cake is a lie.
^ this
If you’re going to say something so patently stupid and attack someone for what they do you should at the VERY LEAST-KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT dumbass.The 1% consists of rich people who ARE the lazy ones.The 99% consists-broadly-of people who have a job but are underpaid while corporations give themselves undeserved raises and bonuses,or laid off-hell the list of circumstances are countless.But for certain the 1% are the people who might as well have no job because God knows they don’t do a damn thing but spend this countrys money like a lazy deadbeat that has a sugaremomma/daddy.
Goshdurn gubmint employee.
Stop stealin’ muh tax munny!
The number of comments to this post is too damn high!
You kow this is fake right? The people who are against Occupy Wallstreet are getting random people to dress up as army dudes, or business guys and writing that they aren’t being lazy and earning their own money. It’s messed up really putting down all the people who are actually trying to work but can’t get to the coveted 1%.
This just goes to show that America just f**king sucks.
The problem is not the 1% who pay for 37% of our federal tax revenue. The problem is the 47% who don’t pay taxes. God bless this soldier.
A favorite talking point used by conservatives to justify giving more tax breaks to the wealthy is that almost 50% of Americans pay no taxes. The truth is that 86% of Americans pay taxes.
The truth is that the talking point that half of all Americans pay no taxes is a misrepresentation. Here is the full quote from the Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/1001289_who_pays.pdf),
“The fraction of tax units paying no income tax varies widely by filing status and type of unit. About 47 percent of single filers will owe no tax, compared with 38 percent of joint filers and 72 percent of heads of household. More than half of elderly tax units and tax units with children will pay no income tax this year.”
The 47% statistic is not all Americans pay no taxes, but single filers who will pay no federal income taxes. According to the Center On Budget and Policy Priorities (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3505#_ftn10) the real reason why 47%-51% of Americans paid no federal income taxes in 2009 is,
“The 51 percent figure is an anomaly that reflects the unique circumstances of 2009, when the recession greatly swelled the number of Americans with low incomes and when temporary tax cuts created by the 2009 Recovery Act — including the “Making Work Pay” tax credit and an exclusion from tax of the first $2,400 in unemployment benefits — were in effect. Together, these developments removed millions of Americans from the federal income tax rolls. Both of these temporary tax measures have since expired.”
The combination of the recession and the Obama stimulus cut taxes to low and middle income Americans led to fewer Americans owing federal income tax in 2009.
The Tax Policy Center has tried to correct Fox News and the right wing media’s misuse of their research. In April 2010, Howard Glickman of the TPC (http://taxvox.taxpolicycenter.org/2010/04/15/about-those-47-percent-who-pay-%E2%80%9Cno-taxes-%E2%80%9D/) wrote,
“Let me explain — repeat actually — what this means: About half of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes. In fact, only 14 percent of Americans didn’t pay either income or payroll taxes. Some paid property taxes and, it is fair to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong.”
“However, this class warfare-like rhetoric plays to a perception that the income tax is a chump tax: Only hard-working folks like us pay it. The welfare queens don’t. The super-rich don’t. It is a powerful emotional argument. It is also flat wrong.”
******The actual number of Americans who don’t pay any taxes isn’t half, but 14%. This group of non-taxpayers of any kind is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. The people who don’t pay taxes do so because they can’t work.******
The myth that the wealthy are carrying the tax burden for America is used to justify tax cuts for the rich. Conservatives use the inaccurate statistic hand in hand with their, “wealthy are the job creators argument.” One statistic that was intended to demonstrate the loss of income due to the recession, along with the impact of the Obama tax cuts has been distorted and misused to justify a policy of not asking the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share.
The truth is that 86% of Americans pay taxes. In one recession strapped year (2009), less than half of single filer taxpayers paid federal income taxes.
Millions of Americans are not being told the truth that almost 90% of us pay taxes, and that much of the reason why there were fewer people paying federal income taxes in 2009 was that Barack Obama signed the largest tax cut in US history. (http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-great-tax-cutter)
Since the truth undercuts the conservative’s reverse Robin Hood steal-from-the-poor-to-give-to-the-rich policy, they are going to do their best to keep the facts buried under a mountain of misinformation.
You win. However, I’d bet most of the conservatives making those statements here are just going to tl;dr; like they do anything longer than what’s on a Tea Party bumper sticker.
By the way, you should all gain some respect for the men and women fighting for our country. You disgust me.
They’re fighting because they are told to do so against a mythical enemy who poses no actual threat to us. They aren’t dying for you or me, they are dying for no reason what so ever, and that is what is truly awful here.
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First of all I think that any of you who are saying he is risking his life for nothing are total freaking idiots! He is risking his life for EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU! Just because you don’t agree with what our government does and what wars they start doesn’t mean you should knock down what we in the military ( yes I am a proud member of the united states military) do each and every day. Just because you don’t like the post doesn’t mean you should EVER put our military members down! Just because you don’t have the guts to be away from you husband/wife, children and other loved ones for months to a year at a time, risk your life for people who you don’t know, who don’t even deserve our protection or dedication to our jobs in helping preserve the life you have! Leave the poor kid alone along with all other military members because without us you wouldn’t be able to enjoy the life you have.
Firstly I am not american and thus he does exactly squat for me.
Secontly you are a sheep. An armed and dangerous one but still an indoctrinated sheep.
How do you know he’s risking his life? For one thing, he’s a guy with a webcam. Doesn’t mean he’s actually in the military. Additionally, not all military jobs involve you risking your life. We still have bases in Japan, Korea, and Germany, with lots of soldiers stationed at each. They’re pretty darn safe there too I might add. Not every soldier is put in harms way every day, and I would wager a vast majority aren’t. So please, get off your appeal to emotion.
sir you are on a roll
Of course the guy in the picture is expecting preferential treatment due to past exploits and endeavors for the rest of his life as well, as indicated by how the letter is written. Never mind the fact that many government bodies abide by the assumed preferential treatment as well in hiring practices regardless of individual ability.
Then again, unless going into government following the implied re-enlistment following GI bill paid education, he could just as easily end up on the street with everyone else due to the fact that the private sector is choosing to create jobs in other countries instead of at home primarially, despite posting record profit margins. Cest la vie.
All I have to say is: Why can’t everybody just get along?!
As a veteran, I can sympathize with the original ideals of the OWS movement, but it has been taken over by Unions and other interest groups to dilude the message and to make them hated. Want to know who heads those unions? Those evil 1% people you hate are the ones you are wanting to help, hows that for convoluted?
Look, people that serve in the military, in my experience, don’t really care about the politics of why a war is started, or why we get shipped off somewhere, especially when the bullets are flying. The only thing I ever cared about while I was overseas was making sure that my friends made it home first and foremost. You say I didn’t fight for you, and maybe I didn’t, maybe the war in Iraq will never have any direct tangible impact on you, but what if that war had been on the U.S. shores and borders? Would I still not have fought for you? Would I still be a mindless killer who deserved nothing but scorn from you? My point in that being, is that it doesn’t matter where we fight, it’s that fact that we are willing to fight, to shed our blood, and lay down our lives, so that you can be safe.
We damage our bodies, our minds, and our souls, some of us to the point that we will never be the same as we were before, and we do it so that you don’t have to. We don’t want your sympathy, we don’t want your pity, but what we do deserve is your respect.
Just because you don’t agree with current wars, doesn’t mean that the ideals behind why we fight are any different from a war on our own shores, and it doesn’t make it okay to disrespect us.
OWS issues and veterans may not see eye to eye, because a lot of us are of a different mind set. I can see where this soldier is coming from, and I understand the frustrations of those in the OWS movement. Again though, I think that the message was allowed to be diluted and taken over there to the point that it has become about handouts, and not about stopping corporate exploitation of the general populace. You want to make changes though, you don’t march on wall street, you march on Washington D.C.
Simply saying that we need to end Capitalism is an ignorant statement though, Capitalism isn’t what got us to this point, it’s political corruption that has gotten us here, and the guilty parties are Republicans as well as Democrats. Do we need to keep these mega corporations and banks in check? Most certainly, but if you want a job, be cautious how hard you bite the hand that feeds you.
It’s great that some unemployed choose the life of a governmental tool to live.
But that does not make those of us that want to survive without endangering our lives, ethics, physical and mental health weak or lazy.
The one glaring thing about this man’s comments? “I will be paid to go to college… and I’m not getting any free handouts.” Apparently, he doesn’t realize that we, as a society (at one point) decided he was deserved of this benefit and would pay extra taxes to help him do this. His argument against the 99% is completely bogus.
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They are benefits not handouts. He worked to gain this and took certain risks that garner him this benefit. Still not a free handout.
tl;dr
you know I would love to join the military. really it was one of my desires of the kid to wear the uniform. but there is just one little problem……i don’t think they want a autistic in there ranks…! actually I am barred by my feet problems alone but autism don’t help ether. don’t judge people work ethic just because they can’t have the nice job you have going to war.
Au contraire.
He said he is the 1% of the 99%, so he is the 0.99%
what happened with the 1% of 100%
this dude is an ignorant douchebag.
:facepalm: No. I’m pretty sure he’s just speaking the truth as he sees it. Doesn’t make him ignorant.
If you are not in the military, or a veteran, STFU or GTFO of america. you obviously don’t appreciate our sacrifices and you don’t deserve to live freely.