I don’t know who you guys think we are, but our bite is MUCH worse than our bark. Do not crossdress as us.
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Dunno which ones kill me more – vampire wannabies or the avatar flocks.
it’s a response to the posters about the “racist” Halloween costumes
you’ll have probably heard of it from theamazingatheist or somethin’
Yeah and that whole program is a joke, I’m part Native American and nobody I know cares if people dress up like Pocahontas, just like English people don’t care if someone dresses up like John Smith. Before you know it, dressing up as George Washington with wooden teeth with be offensive too.
I’m a guy who likes guys too, but if some straight guy acts like an idiot and portrays gay stereotypes I wouldn’t care about that either. MAYBE these people need to grow some thicker skin and learn to laugh. It’s Halloween!
Pocahontas and John Smith were actual figures in history, though they’ve been romanticized and simplified since. The problem isn’t that people are dressing like historical figures of certain races, it’s that they’re turning entire cultures into simplified or sexualized stereotypes. Yeah, it’s just an image, but unfortunately these images [not THESE images, but the images we've created of cultural stereotypes] contribute to actual beliefs that people actually relate to cultures, races, and genders. There are intelligent things that are funny, too, beyond stupid caricatures of complex human beings.
I just don’t know how dressing up like a stereotype ACTUALLY hurts anything. It’s so complicated but seriously either:
A. You already think that’s the truth and nothing will change your mind
B. You don’t know what the hell they’re dressed up as
C. You realize it’s just a costume, because it’s Halloween
or
D. You’re the one guy who doesn’t know about Halloween costumes, but somehow finds out what the person is supposed to be dressed up as and creates a stereotype in their mind about that label.
Seriously who exactly is going to see that overly tanned lady and say “OMG That’s black culture! How silly!”? Or for the Geisha, who in the universe will see through that makup and say “Oh, clearly you’re trying to look Asian all Asian people must dress like this!”.
I’m sorry this whole program just seems poorly thought out by people with thin skins who don’t understand Halloween. People go around in skin-colored naked costumes, the whole idea is to act silly or scary for a day and the costumes don’t make or break racist ideals. It’s like a show on Comedy Central- not meant to be taken as a serious message.
^This. People need to stop getting upset over every little thing.
I’m dressing as Luigi for Halloween…gee, I hope no Italians get offended…
Ok, you are not getting it. It’s not a “character” it’s a race or culture such as “mexican” or “japanese” not “pocahontas” or “speedy gonzalez” get it? It’s not about the character but the context of stereotypes surrounding a culture or a race. Because then, i’m gonna dress up like an “american”, with a huge belly, beer, hotdogs in one hand, a gun in the other, a tattoo of Christ and the american flag on my boxers.
Then I would laugh. It would be funny. Infact, I might do that for a fancy dress party. I’m British and when I was in Canada I actually attended a British-Themed dress-up party and everyone came with top hats, monocles, tea and wooden teeth etc and were all talking like inbred lunatics. I haven’t laughed so hard in a long, long time. I had the maturity to realise these people didn’t hate me or my country, but were just having fun.
Live a little!
Yeah, muzzie terrorists are so complex.
what? you didn’t know? people nowadays don’t even have skin anymore
Yeah, what i don’t get about it though is this; a guy dresses up as an arabian terrorist: yeah, that’s discriminating.
A guy dresses up as a gheto black man. also a little racist.
A girl dresses up as a japanese dancer. how is that discriminating? “we are a culture” and the woman dressed up as part of that culture, not some sort of stereo type even. so how did that even make it to this campaign?
Yes, I’m also very confused about the Geisha and why that would be offensive to anyone. Also a guy dresses up as a Mexican cowboy. Cowboys are a huge part of Mexican culture now days, I don’t understand that one either. As for the suicide bomber, I suppose that could be offensive to people who have lost loved ones because of suicide bombers, other then that, I don’t really get that one either, unless we are assuming he is Muslim, and that’s just stupid. And the guy dressed as a rapper is actually a chick haha! I thought it was a guy too. But I also don’t understand why it would be offensive to dress as a black celebrity. I guess she should have dressed as Eminem.
In the dogs mouth should have been the “all ducks wear dog masks” picture
Forced meme is forced.
Why is it forced?
I’m so sick of how overused the phrase “forced meme” has become..
What could possibly be a the trigger word in this post?
This is why machines should never do a mod’s job..
Yeah, this “forced meme” thing is getting to be kind of a meme.
“forced meme” is a forced meme
Because of what meme means. This was not made popular out of repetition, it’s just a bunch of people who decided to shove it down our throats…
Only people that don’t find it funny feel that it was “shoved down their throats”. I’m sure people felt the same way about things that everyone currently accepts as memes.
Besides, if it wasn’t made popular out of repetition then how was it shoved down your throat?
Any anyway, the last guy I asked the definition of “forced meme” said something entirely different. If everyone has a different definition then the word loses all meaning the no one cares anymore..
All that matters is that it’s rated over 4 burgers with 912 votes, so people like it. Just because you don’t, doesn’t mean it was “forced”.
You’re partly right I guess, only time can tell, plus I don’t feel like arguing right now…
Shows what TMP knows, this meme is all over the interwebs the past couple days. How do so many people “force” that? Isn’t that the Def of a Meme?
You are right and the meme is not forced at all.
TMP troll is trolling.
“Forced meme” is a forced meme
Successful troll is successful.
I’m sorry Bela Lugosi, vampires did not deserve the crime against humanity known as Twilight.
Oh, how I loved vampires before they were gay…
like back in the 90s during interview with a vampire? lolz
that, at least, was classy gay
Flamming, but classy regardless.
The book was astonishing more gay, btw. If I recall corectly, Tom Cruise refused to act a certain scene because it was too gay.
I like Nosferatu better. There is an episode of SpongeBob with him, thus making Nosferatu the best vampire.
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Vampires were gay back in 1872 (Carmilla by Le Fanu), and have often been used as a metaphor in pop culture for homosexuality by both pro and anti-gay persons, mostly depending on if you think forbidden romance and sex are awesome or sinful, respectively.
Dracula was actually inspired by an STD
What is this?
Bela Lugosi > all others
Bela Lugosi’s dead!
Or maybe…Undead!
i hate “i vant to drink your blooda” vampire. i might be the only one but i did welcome the twilight vampire apart from the glitter.
So you welcomed the “i vant to drink your man gravy” vampire?
Is that vampire Tom Bergeron?
Hi. I’m a Canadian citizen and I get butthurt over people dressing up like lumber jacks. Singing the song from Monty Python makes it worse.
/sarcasm
Only actual racism that might be present… is that person with the Sparkle Vampire actually black or black facing it?
black face, but she’s trying to look like lil’ wayne i think
The picture of the vampire biting the “black” woman is actually from the original series of ads.
Some guy in my subdivision dressed up in black face last year. And seeing someone do black face for a Halloween costume is no less shocking and baffling the second time around.
That is not black face, this is black face. Clear difference in my opinion.
The original posters left me wondering “So why are you guys using western clothing instead of the ones of your culture?”
Perhaps they don’t like being reminded how much of their culture they lost, only taking it out of dusty boxes a couple of times a year.
I am so sick of the original posting, it’s been circulating facebook, and everyone who re-posts it acts like they are doing some sort of service to humanity, like they are pointing out some kind of new trend that no one knew about. I’m glad I saw these though. Once again I am reassured that I am not the only person who thinks like me. Also, when I saw the original, the quality was so bad I thought the chick dressed as Lil Wayne was actually a small black boy. Ooops. haha!
OH puhlease, vampires are not a culture. And the original nosferatu was a hunched-back, big-nose, bald, bugged-eyed, weak, frail man who died at the hands of a woman. You guys like to say vampires don’t sparkle, well if vampires aren’t anything like what I described then I have bad news.
You must be trolling, because there are many published vampire stories that came before Nosferatu. Also the vampire in that film was named Count Orlok.
The blackface is actually a bit offensive. The roots in the racist minstrel shows is too much to give a simple pass. The others in the ad campaign aren’t too offensive.
The dog one reminds me of this video.
It’s a parody of the marine who threw the puppy off the cliff a couple of years ago.
I think the originator of these posters is confused… They aren’t going as african-Americans/geishas/etc – their actual costume idea is that they’re all going as racists. Now it seems pretty clever, huh?
I do agree that it’s important to let people know about, well, how racist their costumes are sometimes.
Black face is never okay, and the Native American one has some guy saying “me wantum piece…not war(sic)”
It’s just telling us to think a little more when we choose our costumes.
I wouldnt dress in a costume that I thought would offend someone. I mean, as a woman, I find guys dressing up as tampons and maxipads is offensive and disgusting (There have been a few of them on the internet, just look for it)…so Im not gunna try and do something I feel might offend someone. However. I think meme ads these are hilarious.
HAHAHAHAH are you kidding me? Tampons are offensive to you as a woman??? H…how are you even alive? Like….why do you get out of bed knowing that sooner or later some insignificant thing is going to offend you.
Why are you even on this site hahahaha?
This actually made my day.
“guys dressing up as tampons and maxipads ”
I find it disgusting, but I see no reason to be offended over it.
“I wouldnt dress in a costume that I thought would offend someone.”
Not possible. If it exists, there’s someone that is offended by it. That’s the overly PC world we live in.
You got to be troll, or a soccer-mom that has no buisness on the Internet.
I love it! Those idiot student at Ojio University have entirely too much time on their hands. Note to the PC assclowns at the college:
Check out the juxtaposition between your oversensitivity and reality:
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=180998&st=0&p=684872459&#entry684872459
Ohio University, that is…typo.
So is dressing up as a witchy old hag offensive to old people and/or pagans? How far can we push this? If dressing up as a Geisha is offensive to Japanese culture, then dressing up as either a Fairy or a Princess is offensive to my culture (British) because we have a lot of Faerie-related folklore and a Monarchy. See how ridiculous that is? And god forbid any non-scottish person should dare wear a kilt!
Also, I REALLY don’t understand the arab one. Hilariously, it’s a racist poster in itself. That could be any kind of suicide bomber in the world (there are many, many countries which have them) yet they have an Arab holding the picture. They assume terrorism = arabs. A racist poster about racism. Lolwat.
Well, it’s because he’s dressed like an Arab.
Though, I still agree with most of your post. People are too touchy. You don’t hear me complaining when people dress as a red neck or anything else that could be construed as making fun of white people.
They mostly dress like zombies, which is offensive because I have friends that are dead. (J/k) You’re right, this whole thing could be applied to anything, which is why it’s being ridiculed so much.
You should hear the reaction from the person who started the campaign. It’s hilarious.
Link to the reaction?
http://fyeahwomensstudieswolverine.tumblr.com/
“I hate that this has become a meme. Let me try to articulate what, exactly, is wrong with it.”
Its starts with this quote. Cntrl + F it to find the whole thing.
My comment isn’t showing up right away so you’ll have to wait until a mod approves it..
I swear this happens to me 70% of the time and it’s really getting on my nerves..
Mods need to stop letting a bot do a human’s job.
I’m betting most commenters are white.
Here’s the best way to explain this. You say you “laugh at white American stereotypes” but you rarely have to put up with them.
Imagine hearing the same joke your whole life, even if it’s not hurtful, jokes run dry after a while and become very annoying.
Imagine meme based with only a single meme, it’s be tolerable at first but then it’d quickly grow old.
“but you rarely have to put up with them.”
>Implying you know how often anyone puts up with anything..