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This is more then you will learn from any public school history class.
>_< Yeah right…
Maybe in America! xD I've learned this AND more in my public school… (Living in sweden kinda PWNS sometimes…)
i think he was exagerating, thanks for hanging in there though
yeah, it PWNS allright. Hooray for Sweden and their public schools.
BTW, what did they teach you about collaborating with Nazi Germany? Thanks for sending Germany all that iron ore to feed the war effort. Probably doubled the length of the war.
Have the schools started teaching about the holocaust yet?
Please don’t cry,potus.
I bet schools in USA are very quiet about the concentration camps in the USA and the war crimes, like bombing civilians on purpose to inspire terror. Really, the winner writes history, at war, all sides are douchebags brainwashing people for blind support.
No they teach us about that in the US too, and that jewel squid wasn’t cool either. Good call on the brainwashing though, however not everyone falls for it.
Which part of Europe are you from? The part that we saved or the part whose ass we kicked.
I’m American, and even I think that’s just completely stupid. You do know that American’s weren’t involved in every battle, right? And that there were neutral countries in Europe? And that the Soviets ‘liberated’ Eastern Europe from the Germans, right?
@ somebody, your right about americans not being in every battle & the soviets, however, until the u.s.got into the war the germans were kicking europes & the soviets ass, right??
And for the first two years of the war, the US was getting it’s ass beaten by the Japanese as well. (Look at the disaster of the Battle of the Philippines.)
The Allies finally started winning in 1943 for several reasons.
1: The US industry was finally hitting it’s stride of producing war material.
2: The Soviets finally started recovering from the purges of the 1930s that nearly wiped their army of every capable general.
3: And most importantly, the Germans overextended themselves.
The Germans were busy trying to keep the peace in every territory they held. They had to keep a large force in Northern France to keep an eye on England. They had to help Italy deal with the Balkans and Northern Africa. And finally, the Eastern Front was a meat grinder for both sides.
The blame also lies with Hitler. “Mein fuhrer, we’re almost at Moscow! If we capture it, we would control the capital of the Soviet Union and at the very least destabilize the government for some time!” “Hmmm…no. Tell the armies to stop moving towards Moscow. Instead they shall take Leningrad and Stalingrad, for propaganda purposes!”
Hitler was an idiot when it came to military strategy, yet he involved himself in the war too much.
More Germans died on the Eastern Front than any other theater of the war. More Soviets died than any other country as well. It was a meatgrinder and severally sapped Germany’s strength.
Oh, and you forgot to mention that waaaay before the US hits it’s industrial stride, it was already supplying the Soviet Union and Great Britain with food, tanks, trucks, boots, planes, rifles, ammunition, etc.
So, again – without the US the Nazis would have won even before we got into it militarily. They came very close as it was.
You’re welcome. No really. You’re welcome. Not a word of thanks? What are you, French?
The Lend-Lease program finally started helping significantly after the US hit its industrial stride. Sure, we were helping the Allies with the Lend-Lease program as early as 1941, but not all of the supplies even reached the respective countries (especially when it came to the Soviet Union).
And while the Lend-Lease program without a doubt helped, it wasn’t the deciding factor by far.
tl;dr
Wow, that really contributed a lot. Thank you for that, really. Thank you for telling everyone you have the attention span of a goldfish.
It is to my extent of knowledge that the states isnt the favorite north american country over there in europe, Canada is, the dutch still send us flowers every so many years hehe
The states came in when both sides were on the ground having a thumb war because they have gotten tired of punching eachother. . . -.-
Because the Canucks never do anything to piss anyone off. Because they never do anything. Tell you what, next time – you can be the wordls policeman. We’re getting tired of it. And you can stick your Libyan no-fly zone where the sun don’t shine. So sick of the rest of the world suggesting that we get involved in all their S**t and then blaming us for getting involved in all their s**t.
No one asked the US to be the world police. They just seem to think they are, when they really aren’t.
Of course we never do anything to piss anyone off. That’s why 100% of our towers have survived a terrorist attack. Or government conspiracy.
What ever you people end up deciding it is.
Besides. We’re too busy actually doing some good to piss anyone off, that part’s your job!
Yes, yes they did. When WW2 ended the world pointed the finger at the US and said we should’ve been involved in the League of Nations. Then they pointed at the US and said, “Deal with the Soviet Union” The US had bases in nearly every major nation in the world so that if the Soviets invaded or did something we could protect them. If that’s not called telling us to be the world’s police then you must be missing a few cogs in your brain.
Oh and here’s a nice kicker! The US was given pressure by other nations to drop support of Afghanistan after the Soviet invasion. We listened and left it alone. We were about to put a few million into the country to rebuild their schools. And now we’re blamed for giving the Taliban the resources to take over that country. Real classy.
You do know that we supplied arms and training to Taliban, right? Hell, the CIA trained Bin Laden.
we supplied the Mujahideen not the Taliban! read a book.
I sacrificed accuracy for simplification. Hell, a lot of the militants currently fighting in Afghanistan are barely connected to the Taliban, yet we still refer to them as the Taliban. Most of the people here aren’t familiar with the Mujahideen as much as the Taliban, and by being inaccurate, my point would at least be understood.
So excuse me.
i wonder why the US are in Libya… oh right.. theres a bunch of oil over there :/
The US aren’t in Libya. They have a few ships off the coast that haven’t done anything yet. And they should be doing anything. Unless I’m wrong, other governments should step in and do something when a leader of a country is bombing his own people and promising to execute every single person who stands against him.
Right…and who made the US world’s policeman? Nobody, that’s who!
The UN and NATO did.
Yea ever heard of the koren war the UN force was really like 90% US
Korean*
We never do anything? Here’s some Canadian contributions to war effort in the last hundred year. In WW1 a Canadian, Sir Arthur Currie, was responsible for the ideas of indirect fire (which lead to cover fire), mixed units, shock troops and revolutionized the concept of trench warfare. Many of his tactics are still used today… Canadian troops have been involved in every major conflict that the US has been in aside from Vietnam, the Gulf War and the current mess in Iraq, even if some of it was peace-keeping efforts, in places such as Bosnia and Somalia… I know not all Americans are ignorant, so before putting your foot in your mouth and making the rest of your country look bad, do some research first.
I’m from the part that was killed in a series of friendly fire incidents.
Excellent. Glad to help.
The part you saved? The part you kicked? *laughs*
France, UK, Netherlands, Belgium, etc, were forced to put up with the nazis much longer than the US. The Russians and Europe’s Resistance fighters fought them and hold them back much more than US forces ever did. Then the US steps in the fray in the last minute, blows up two cities and suddenly they’re the one and only heroes of WWII? Yeah right.
What they did right was helping Europe in its reconstruction. In the war itself, we could just count on their help after Pearl Harbor was attacked.
Seriously? You don’t know much about WWII. Resistance fighters – helpful, but not much use. Supplied by – the US. Great Britain armed and fed by – the US. Soviet Union armed and fed by – the US. And all before Pearl Harbor, too.
Netherlands? Bunch of collaborators. Of all the countries overrun by the Nazis they supplied the most volunteers to fight for the Nazis.
Reconstructing Europe was the stupidest thing we did. You only like it because you benefited from it. Europe always likes our money.
Troll, or just a zealous Nationalist? You have to be one or the other if you really think that we shouldn’t have helped a continent practically destroyed by a war to rebuild.
The US assisted Europe for reasons such as:
Did you expect the US to come in, blow shrimp up and then just be like, “aright, saved your asses, im outty”
And whatever money they pumped into West Germany, this was just expand their economy into Germany, as well their policies. West Berlin was in the heart of Eastern Germany, what better place to spy on the “Commies” and continue with Truman’s policy of containment.
reconstructing europe was one of the smartest things you did.
when WWI ended, everyone decided to blame the war on germany and bankrupt the entire country with war debt, which, in turn, caused there to be bad blood between germany and its surrounding nations. NOT helping europe (mainly germany) rebuild after the first world war is a major reason there even was a second world war.
That’s why rebuilding Europe to avoid future war was the right choice.
U NUTS? 70% of the “volunteers”were forced to fight. ENGLAND trained resistance fighters. CANADA&INDIA fed england 2 years. US didnt want to get involved, until japan bombed pearl harbor. then, america simply supplied most soldiers and stuff. but they neglected the netherlands because it wasnt a goal. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE(on a not very big population) STARVED! resistance fighters? required the nazis to keep a lot more forces then intended in conquered countries, disrupted supplylines by blowing up rails ect, and were a key to succes in western europe by informing the americans with vital information for not getting slaugtherd. one instance in france, mere seconds before an attack on a village occupied by the SS the americans were made aware of the fact that the field they tried to attack over was a minefield.
No… maybe in the deep south. But not in California (at least where I live). As for the brain washing, every country then and now try to make the younger generation think that their country is the best.
Right, so there were NO Japanese-American concentration camps in California, then?
Nope.
There were internment camps though. Japanese weren’t forced to labor and shot on sight if they didn’t work hard enough. No gas chambers either.
“Concentration” doesn’t mean killing and torturing.
That’s not what a concentration camp is. A concentration camp is, by definition, a camp where you keep a CONCENTRATION of people for whatever reason. Hitler’s death camps are what most people think of nowadays when they hear “concentration camp.” And no, that brainwashing moray eel isn’t going on here in the “deep south” either.
Considering that English is a living and evolving language, the common usage is to refer to Nazi-esque death camps. To call US Japanese internment camps concentration camps implies they were for that purpose or of a similar nature.
concentration camp
–noun
a guarded compound for the detention or imprisonment of aliens, members of ethnic minorities, political opponents, etc., especially any of the camps established by the Nazis prior to and during world War II for the confinement and persecution of prisoners.
So, in other words, a concentration camp is a guarded camp where aliens, ethnic minorities, and/or political opponents are kept. The Nazi concentration camps are just an example. It’s like changing the definition of “car” to “Ford cars”.
And what were the internment camps we used? Well, they housed an ethnic minority (Japanese), were guarded (unless those watchtowers and barbed wire was just for show), and they were obviously camps.
Though, in our defense, we weren’t the only country to do so. Canada has Japanese internment camps in British Columbia.
they werent torture camps they were isolation camp to keep the spahs under control
What I meant was they teach use of the camps, in great detail.
*us
aaand no one else does.
Where did the phrase “concentration camp” originate? The Brits in the Boer war.
Yeah because every Southerner is ignorant. Nevermind the fact that one of the greatest American historians that ever lived, Steven Ambrose, taught in the South.
Never heard of him.
He was the biographer of Eisenhower and Nixon. He wrote a lot of best-selling history books as well. Though, at the same time, there is some criticism around him that he might have plagiarized the work of others.
Internment camps were nothing like concentration camps. Learn some history.
Every country hides what they don’t want civies to hear.
Dude, They don’t teach about the Holocaust because it’s the Holocaust.
I responded to a similar comment, but it seems to be missing now, so I don’t know.
Anyway, all Sweden did was trade iron with Germany. Do you know what else they did?
Hide Danish, Norwegian, and Finnish Jews.
Set up training camps for the sole purpose of training Norwegian refugees to become resistance fighters.
Supply the Allies with information about Germany gathered from Swedish spies in Germany. For example, they informed the Allies about the Bismark leaving port to attack Allied convoys.
Intercepted German messages, decrypted them, and gave them to the Allies.
Planned to join the Allies and support them in the liberation of Denmark in what they cleverly titled “Operation Rädda Danmark” (Operation Save Denmark). However, the Allies told Sweden that they didn’t need their troops, and would just need to use their air bases and radar stations.
Supplied the Allies with several locations on islands to spy on and bomb Germany.
And do you know why they traded with the Germans?
http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/9ac5499/en/fixed/470/430/Second_world_war_europe_1941-1942_map_en.png?format=jpg
They were completely surrounded by the Axis. And they witnessed firsthand how the Germans conquered Denmark and Norway in a little over two months. The Swedes were standing right on top of something the Germans wanted (iron), were surrounded, and would not be able to fight off the Germans, especially not when the United Kingdom was fighting for it’s life.
The Swedes did a lot of things for the Allies, and risked pissing off Germany.
And this is coming from an American. Read a book sometime.
this. sweden actually did more than most other countries, they’re just not acknowledged in the way they should be. (i am not swedish)
Okay, can we stop having a coraling political debate and talk about the comic instead?!
History debate =/= political debate.
I don’t see anyone saying “Those damn Conservatives refuse to acknowledge the sacrifices of Canada.” or “Those damn Liberals refuse to admit that America won the war.”
And can we stop correcting each other’s termology? (btw, the conservatives DO refuse to acknowledge Canada’s sacrifice.)
Yah. Had to give up fatback on Fridays for the duration, eh?
“The Swedes did a lot of things for the Allies, and risked pissing off Germany.”
Risked pissing off Germany. Wow. You don’t “risk pissing them off”, you FIGHT THEM! Damnit, Sweden.
Y U NO FIGHT GERMANY???
“I have a brilliant idea, fellow Swedes! Let’s get our young men killed, our land occupied, our government dismantled, and all the Jews we saved back in German hands! What could go wrong!?!”
because they’re all kitty kats you know
This ^ too! Thank God for some intelligence as opposed to ignorance (I’m not American or Swedish, but I am an Historian).
*A historian. not “an” Historian.
1. You are wrong.
2. Really? You write this one minute after saying that we should stop correcting each other’s “termology” (which, by the way, is not a word)?
No matter if you are sewedish or not. Yes, read some books sometimes. What you write is “positive propaganda crap”
Fact is:
-Swedens voluntary served in SS-Divisions(some of them in the battle of Berlin)
-As well as Sweden helped to hide Jews Sweden was a major refugee-nation for nazis after the war to hide or to get to argentina
-between 1924 (bevor the nazis came) to 1945 there were 90 faschism organisations with over 25.000 members from mostly the upper class and over 200 university-professors. They planned and prepared the building of concentration camps for the 8000 swedish Jews in case of a German occupation.
-of course the swedens did a lot for the allies, as every “resitance-organistaions” in european nations did, even in Nazi germany, but Sweden did not risk to piss of Germany. The things they did to please germany were by faaaaaaaar more important to the war, then pissing them of.
A simular history renunciation in case of working with the nazis you can find today in Suisse and Hungary and Slowakia in “vichy-France” and and and and and so on…
1: Do you know how many Swedes joined and served Germany? 180. Not 1,800. 180. And for personal decisions. They were free to do as they wish, but the government neither condoned them or condemned them.
2: Source? Not to mention the government had no real control of everyone who passed through or hid in the country. You might as well blame the government of Mexico for criminals escaping through their border.
3: Do you know how many Nazis there were in America? Well, one of the major groups were the German-American Bund, which had around 25,000 members alone. Once again, why blame the government of Sweden for the actions of its citizens? Do they not have political freedom? If you want to debate about the actions of Swedes as a whole, and not who represents them, then why not talk about Swedish serial killers as well, claiming that the Swedish government is at fault for their actions?
4: Sweden traded with both the United Kingdom and Germany. They were following the 1907 Hague Convention’s definition of a neutral country, which allowed trade. And despite this, and them being a neutral government, they were attacked by the British, Germans, and Soviets. The British and Soviets attacked several convoys heading to Germany, and the Germans sank many ships heading to the United Kingdom. Later on in the war, Sweden even leased part of it’s merchant navy and sailors to the Allies to serve in convoys. Hell, during the war, 2,500 Swedish sailors were killed from mines, u-boats, aircraft attacks, etc.
what did you do after public school?
……..
yeah, that’s what I thought.
yep, like then/than…
It’s sad that I learned more about WW2 from this meme comic than I did in school.
it’s not even that accurate, fewer than half the troops who landed at D-Day were American, most were either from the UK, or the British dominions
Although funny, this is indeed incredibly inaccurate. It isn’t even the typical american over-confidence about their role in the war, its just a bad grasp on the war in russia, and the outbreak of war.
Either way, as a comic, its not bad.
True, we didnt have the greatest amount of troops, but the US did have to take the most difficult beach.
And within a short time the US did have the most troops on the western front. And we were supplying the British, the Free French, the Australians, the Chinese, and the Soviets with food and weapons. We’re just such jerks, aren’t we? I mean, who do we think we are doing all that for the rest of the world?
You do know that even before we were officially in the war our merchant sailors were dying inconvoys bringing US goods to England and the Soviets. And Roosevelt was telling Churchill that even if we were attacked by the Japanese we’d give priority to helping the Brits in Europe over defending ourselves against Japan and that decision is why we had 6 months (not 2 years as someone wrote) of getting whipped by the Japanese before we began to gain the upper hand.
Yeah, who are we to claim some credit?
Japan started losing some (not all) battles in 1942, but didn’t start being handed major defeats until 1943, two years after the entry of the United States (unless you want to get technical, then it’s a year and a few months.)
Beginning to gain the upperhand is the point at which you start to go on the offensive more than the defensive and you start winning those offensive battles. Further the US battle plan (adopted in 1940) for the Pacific was to defend shipping lanes first instead of charging acrouns the ocean to protect the Phillipines. The US only had losses and minimal advances due to a lack of commitment in the theater.
Japan made significant mis-steps from day one. Their first being Pearl Harbor. Recent historians and strategists are saying that if Japan had not attacked Pearl Harbor the war would have at least gone on longer. A Japanese Admiral was quoted as saying this, “We won a great tactical victory at Pearl Harbor and thereby lost the war.” Their other HUGE mis-step was their belief in battleships as the decider in naval battles. The one thing that allowed the US to win in the Pacific were our carriers. Even ignoring that most of the US’ battleships were destroyed at Pearl Harbor, once they came back online they were insignificant and mostly used for coastal bombardments. The Japanese meanwhile horded their battleships waiting for the big clash of steel giants they thought would happen.
That is correct, though they did abandon the Philippines, allowing many Americans and Filipinos to die in battle, to die in forced marches, and to die in camps.
And it did take a while for the US navy to adapt to changing tactics, and that can be seen in early battles where the Americans were less successful than in later battles.
However, you are dead on with the second paragraph. Japan, like Germany, overextended themselves. They were already bogged down in China, and in 1941 and later, they were invading Dutch islands, American islands, occupying French Indochina, and invading British-controlled Burma.
If the carriers had been at Pearl Harbor or were destroyed in other battles, the war might have of went differently, at least in the opening years.
The Japanese expansion also showed how they overextended themselves. They took control of several American islands, but they weren’t capable of effectively defending them while also attacking other areas.
Though, the Japanese were desperate. They were starved of raw materials, and were hoping that a quick offensive against the Americans would put them in a better defensive position, and then they could simply allow the Americans to get themselves killed and destroyed in offensives until they were willing to negotiate a peace treaty, and remove the embargo. Obviously the Japanese plan didn’t work.
The author didn’t even get the size of the Reich correct. Shame.
untill 1990? well. did not know that. i thought it was 1989 for sure
they knocked down berlin’s wall in 1989 (Nov 9), and the official reunion was in 1990 (Oct 3).
correct. In fact the war ended in 1990, because then all involved states signed the peace contract.
That makes it one of the longest war if I remember well
Nope, the Hundred Years war between France and England last… A hundred years.
Actually it lasted from 1337 to 1453, making it 116 years.
Wrong! The hundred year war lasted 116 years. Although even then it was just a series of battles which could roughly be traced back to a source.
Lol war stopped in 1945, 1990 is just the reunification, war was over there a long time before
Ever heard of the Cold War?
The Cold War wasn’t even a war, ever heard that?
Ever heard that it wasn’t a real war?
cold war =/= a REAL war. Just some bluffers comparing ratata’s.
Read up. There were definite plans for nuclear strikes from both sides.
The Cold War separated East and West Germany, and basically, they refused to have contact with each other, and if anyone trespassed from one side onto the other, they would either be arrested or killed, so the conflict was still present, like two rival gangs, having a potential to get into a battle if either side interfered with the other.
The war STOPPED in 1945, but it didn’t officially END until 1990, as during the prior 45 years there wasn’t actually a single country called “Germany” to sign the peace treaty. Although, of course, this is really just historical nitpicking. After the end of the Crimean War the town of Berwick-upon-Tweed remained legally at war with Russia until the 1960s due to a loophole in the peace accord.
Not quite.
Usually Berwick-upon-Tweed is mentioned separately on declarations of war but that was not the case in the crimean war. It was not mentioned in the declaration of war nor in the peace accord.
Technically Berwick was NEVER at war with Russia.
On the other hand Berwick missed out on the armistice with Germany in ’45. Traditionally armistices and such like have to be declared first in London and only a few days later in Scotland (to give time for a horse ride from London to Edinburgh). Coincidentally Berwick changed from being part of Scotland to being part of England in just those two or three days.
Oh no i’m learning D:
isent there a meme abt that as well…
IT’S A TRAP!!!
What ever happened to the battle of britain?
WHERE IS CANADALAND!
Yeah! We demand to see Americas hat!
We’re the best hat you will ever have. * insert challenge accepted face *
We need one. You keep sending us that cold weather and all that “white rain” you pollute us with every winter.
And even with a clam hat, most of the northern states still go crazy at the slight idea of snowfall and cold weather, cause schools to close and enough driving problems for a majority of the news reports I see to be about accidents or dangerous roads.
Bunch’a pansies can’t even handle some snow. Lucky little kids, too. Getting snow days. I didn’t get one my entire time in school!
You’d think the US would be able to handle the white powdered stuff, hey?
U mad and cold bro?
Where has America’s hat gone?!?!
canada doesn’t come out of hiding in that time, nub
That’s bull. Canada was in the war before America. We fought along side the British. USA didn’t come out of hiding until they got attacked themselves.
Technically, you WERE the British.
False, Canada joined the war a week after the British. It was up to Canada to decide to join the war or not, unlike world war one when Canada was forced by Britain to join the war.
You pretty much do what they say then, eh?
Canada was pretty much independent in most ways from Britain as early as 1931.
THANK YOU! I would not be surprised if some Americans thought Great Britain and Poland were US colonies… Canada + British = challenge accepted
i would, seeing that america’s colleges pwns britian’s most every year.
Yep, that is totally proven by your excellent grammar. And you cannot compare the results from US and UK Schools as they run different curriculum’s and in a different way, with different grade structures. In short, your statement is false.
Good Day Sir.
But the majority of top colleges in the WORLD, including every nation, tend to be America.
ht tp://www.webometrics.info/top12000.asp
Oh, and excellent grammar? *curricula
Plus, following that logic, you can’t compare results between the education in public schools between US and UK.
I must heartily disagree.
In your ranking neither Oxford nor Cambridge is in the top10.
Very unlikely.
I reckon this ranking is a better depiction of the performances of universities.
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2010
The ranking you’ve quoted has some major flaws, maybe the criteria used are weighted uncommonly. For example: I know the german university landscape quite well and there are some mix-ups which are undeniably wrong.
I must heartily disagree.
In your ranking neither Oxford nor Cambridge is in the top10.
Very unlikely.
I reckon this ranking is a better depiction of the performances of universities.
ht tp://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2010
The ranking you’ve quoted has some major flaws, maybe the criteria used are weighted uncommonly. For example: I know the german university landscape quite well and there are some mix-ups which are undeniably wrong.
If you’re going to say it’s flawed, you’ll need something better than “because I think so”.
Do you people even check the criteria for your rankings? LALA GALA quoting ‘Majority of top colleges is in America’ is a total joke. It’s based off web publications and not actual results. (webometrics)
OK, I’ll admit I didn’t know the plural of curriculum, so I guessed. And yes I am saying you can’t compare public schools in the two countries because of the large differences. In order to get an accurate comparison, you need a test where the results universally on the same scale (eg. IQ test)
Man, this thread is long, but I want to point out your post. You should have good grammar if you are mocking someone for grammar. Using apostrophes in words that are plural gives me the chills.
Good on you. Best “out” I’ve seen this hour. “It’s different, so there’s no way to measure, so you can’t say one is better. Therefore your statement is false.”
Here in the US that’s called a non-sequiter. That’s Latin for “does not follow”, eh?
It means that your conclusion (statement is false) doesn’t follow from your premise (different curriculums {sic}).
Let me see if I can explain it in terms you’ll understand. If I say that beer is better than pepsi, and you say that since they’re different that my statement is false your argument is a non-sequiter. Because it doesn’t follow that because beer is different than pepsi that one wouldn’t be better than the other. And, of course, beer is better than pepsi. even Canadian beer is better than pepsi. Not a lot better, but better.
I agree with this, and I’M American. I am surrounded by idiots. D:
An American named “Nazi”…
Not a very good way to win an argument.
“come out of hiding” makes us sound like cowards. Canada doesn’t know what we went through during WW1. we wanted to stay neutral as much as possible.
British 2nd army: 83,000 troops (various nationalities such as Canadian. One has to take into account the different geopolitical structure of the time).
USA First army: 73,000 troops.
Any claim that the US single-handedly won the war or even played the biggest part (in dday) is utterly preposterous if you start comparing numbers. There are too many fractions to account for.
Everybody did it’s part.
The only thing that the USA excelled in at dday is creating extensive losses on their own side (still well below the 20% threshold) due to outdated intel, errors in preparation/execution and the downright refusal of accepting specialised British tools developed for the beach task.
But hey, history is written by the victor. Or in this case, the only one not burned to a crisp. -_-
What a pompous a$$. The losses for U.S. on d-day had everything to do on WHERE they landed and nothing to do with British suggestion, morono. I swear, the nerve of people.
Since Pun-isher has already explained half, I shall explain the other.
Who the narwhal took out japan (Almost single handedly)? Who spent all the money developing nuclear weapons, and then had the balls to use them?
They didnt. Whether americans dropped the bomb or not japan would have lost. The only reason they got so far down the pacific through china was because china was in civil war. halfway through the war the communists and democrats decided to combine their forces to drive the japanese out and were successful enough that they would have defeated the japanese even if the americans didn drop the bomb. and the dropping of the bombs cost more civilian lives than you think. it was outright massacre. it makes the people who decided to drop it no different from those japanese soldiers who raped and killed random civilians in the war.
No they didn’t. We kept trying to get the Nationalists (democrats??) to cooperate with the communists and they wouldn’t. They would say they would. But then they wouldn’t.
Dropping the atomic bombs cost about 350,000 civilian deaths through blast and radiation. Attacking Japan proper was estimated at the time (based upon casualty rates at Saipan and Okinawa) to cost over a million Japanese civilian deaths. Remember, this was wartime Japan, not the nice quiet Japan we know today. The Japanese government was planning a homeland defense that included women and children armed with bamboo spears charging US troops armed with air power, artillery and automatic weapons.
It’s a horrible calculation, but dropping the bombs actually saved lives.
“There is little point in attempting precisely to impute Japan’s unconditional surrender to any one of the numerous causes which jointly and cumulatively were responsible for Japan’s disaster. The time lapse between military impotence and political acceptance of the inevitable might have been shorter had the political structure of Japan permitted a more rapid and decisive determination of national policies. Nevertheless, it seems clear that, even without the atomic bombing attacks, air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion.
Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.”
-United States Strategic Bombing Survey
Summary Report
(Pacific War)
Washington, D.C.
1 July 1946
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/USSBS-PTO-Summary.html#jstetw
“The use of [the atomic bombs] at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons… The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.”
-Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman
Japanese forces were repelled by a joint Indian, Australian, New Zealander, British and American effort. Remember it was WORLD War 2, everyone was involved and everyone made an incredible effort.
However, after the conflict ended the Cold War soon began. Because of this the US Government decided to teach the “American-War” in their public schools. It’s not really your fault that you think that America single-handedly defeated Japan, thats just what you’ve been told all your life.
P.S The second bomb was developed mainly by British scientists and some over nationalities. Their bomb was completed sooner and cheaper than the Americans’ one. Most people at the time, including Truman, did not want to drop the bomb and they certainly would never have bragged about it.
What have you been taught? The second bomb, and the first, were developed in the US. Yes, with some British help. Also with a great deal of help from scientists who escaped from the Nazis. But it was an American project. No less so because it involved people from other coutries. That’s what Americans are – people from other countries.
And again, everyone was involved. Involved in eating US food, using US weapons, flying US planes. Where do you think all that horrible SPAM came from? Right here in Albert Lea, Minnesota at the Hormel plant. And those P39s and P40s the Aussies and Kiwis were flying? Did they just materialize out of the depths of the ocean? And all that .30 cal ammunition? Dropped out of the sky?
No problem acknowledging that when you all were attacked you did your part. Why do you have such trouble acknowledging the huge part we played even before we officially got into the war?
Single handedly? Shut the hell up. India, China Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand and many other brought down Japan. America had very little to do with taking down anyone. In fact, America did almost nothing. They only joined in when it was clear the allies were winning.
America joined the war in 1941. The Allies didn’t start winning battles until 1943.
Hey, didn’t America provide the UK with weapons, planes, and tanks to fight the Germans long before we entered the war? Not to mention the food and other supplies our merchant marines sent to your literally starving island. Oh yeah that would mean that yes we played a major part in the war in Europe. Its called the lend lease act look into it.
If you think the Lend-Lease act alone saved the United Kingdom, then you’re an idiot. It helped, that part is a fact. But it doesn’t mean that we single-handily saved the United Kingdom and the whole world by shipping out a few thousand tanks and 50 outdated destroyers and whatnot.
I don’t see him saying that the US was anywhere near what saved the UK, just did have an affect earlier in the war than sending over troops post 1941.
and not to mention revitalized their bomber fleet, after the germans took out most of it.
The Americans were a huge help, but they couldn’t have done it if the brits hadn’t held out for so damn long. Good to go, you stubborn brits! And I mean that in a nice way!
Oh man. You have no idea. We shipped food and oil. Many thousands of tanks. Hundreds of thousands of rifles and many millions of rounds of ammunition. And the outdated destroyers you write so disparagingly of were what you begged us for. Begged.
Read Churchill’s history of the war. See the fugures he produces about tonnage of food consumed, oil consumed, oil and food imported, and read what he thought about the US unvolvement prior to Pearl Harbor. He credited it with saving the UK.
But, you think he was wrong, eh? Sounds a little like revisionism to me. Look, just say “thanks”. Why is that so hard?
As I said in response to something else you said, the Lend-Lease program certainly helped, but they were not the deciding factor.
Also, you do know that I’m American, right?
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false, they were there on D day, nub
D-Day was after Pearl Harbour, bigger n00b
when did pearl harbour become the cut-off date, Sir noobsalot?
Christ you’re dumb – please tell us more on how WWII was just the US against Germany.
you really are a craptroll. That was hurr-endous.
c-c-c-combo breaker
He must be a troll, no-one is that stupid…
1) America joined after Pearl Harbour
2) Japan was actually way stronger than America at that time. The just lost because of Americas excellent strategists
3) Germanys loss against Soviet Russia and their counter attacks were the main reason for Germanys surrender
4) America could not help Europe until they stole an Enigma decyphering machine. Up to then, they had no Idea where Germanys submarines were hiding, thus they could not leave the eastcoast.
4: Completely incorrect. The Enigma machine was first deciphered in 1932 by the Poles, who were spying on the Germans. Before the war in 1939, they handed over the information of how to decipher the codes to the British and French. As the war went on, the Germans changed their codes, but the British were always the one to figure them out.
You’re probably thinking about the movie U-571, where Americans capture an enigma machine from a U-boat. Only thing is, in reality, the British were the ones who captured it, and the Americans had nothing to do about it.
2) No, not really. Yes, they had a larger navy in 1941, but they did not have America’s industrial base or natural resources. If you don’t count those among America’s strengths, you’re counting wrong. Among Japan’s problems was an embargo of raw material like scrap metal from the US. Once we put our factories on a total war footing, there was no way they could keep up with us.
thanks.
americans were NOT pu$$ies back then.
question. Why is WW1 forever alone?After losing 116000 men in WW1 I applaud America for waiting before getting involved in a war that seemed to be a cyclical problem.
all in all we ended up losing half a million men in uniform. All you haters can kiss my american asp.
P.s. Britian and France aren’t innocent. German and Japan were evil, but Britian and France were definately not innocent.
you have WAY too much American pride… as an American this makes me sick :p
oh then this will make you REALLY ILL.
airplane, gps, printing press, cars, electricity, air conditioning, computers, dishwashers, water fountains,oil wells, refrigerator, electric stove, traffic lights, video games, e-mail, elevators, frozen meals, electric guitar, LASERS, lawn mowers, modern medicine, Microwaves, nuclear reactors, and a mother f-ing zamboni
Like any of those things? Learn to respect what you’ve inherit, kid
@Pun-isher
Mate, most of those things were not made or discovered by Americans. For instance:
Printing Press:Gutenberg (Germany)
Electricity:Ben Franklin (England)
Computers: Alan Turing (England)
Water Fountains: Ancient Greek
Oil Well: Ancient China
Traffic Lights: First installed in London
Elevator: Werner von Siemens (Germany)
Lasers: Although invented by a USA citizen, first described by Einstein (Germany)
Lawn Mower: Edwin Budding (England)
Modern Medicine:Foundation by Hippocrates (Greece) Edward Jenner (England)
Nuclear Reactor: Foundation laid by Einstein (Germany)
So there you have it, mate. America is not as cool as you think it is. It’s mostly ignorant pricks like yourself.
And it makes me sick that you have so much contempt for America while you blindly use the products that, because of it’s existence, have affected your life.
This country was great, but when we started believing that everyone deserves everything without the work, we began to kill ourselves. I don’t hate this country, I hate the stupid people in it that will know more about Mylie Cyrus or Justin Bieber or the gossip around Charlie Sheen then they will about history, whether it’s good history for the US or not. God help us all…..
@Pun-isher: the printing press was invented by a German, before America even existed. And yes, I’m an American.
good gracious you all are idiots. I didn’t say america Invented them, a$$ whipes. America Did, however provide the mighty dollar to procude and industrialize those items.
and oentje. Cereal guy, you will definately never have a girlfriend, mate.
America has the richest culture in the world, the richest collegage system in the world, and the largest population of free citizens in the world.
also, we played the largest part in all the innovations you love most.
all you American haters just watch hollywood and get jelly from out hot women.
Yes, America lost just under 500,000 soldiers in WWII, more than the British losses. But this was not due to the fact that America put in ‘more effort’ it was down to new tactics and more efficient attacks that did away with such battles like the Somme or Paschendale. You lost many men due to outdated tactics that were not changed until after Vietnam, also known as charge in and hope for the best.
Which, thankfully, was why Eisenhower refused to have his men under Montgomery; the British were still (maybe not all the time, granted) using trench-warfare that got men killed.
P.S. If anybody should be recognized for D-Day, it would have to be Scotty (forgot actor’s name D:) from Star Trek: the Canadian who lost a finger at D-Day and continued in an acting career.
The US did not make the printing press. That was the Chinese or the Germans. Nor did they make the computer. That was the English and the Germans. An Italian was the one who made the electric current first, and thus “electricity”. A Canadian invented the electric stove. Elevators have been around since Archimedes. Doesn’t matter who invented the electric guitar, the British mastered it, the bass, and the drums (long live Heavy Metal). Modern Medicine was contributed to by a lot of people, only one of which was American. Nuclear reactors were made by an Italian man who resided in the US.
But really.
Who cares where the inventor was from? HE/SHE invented it, not the country.
You’re proud of something you yourself didn’t do. That’s as stupid as someone being proud of their skin colour. It was by chance someone smart was born somewhere, it was by chance that you were born in the same country. You had no affect on it, you have no right to be proud.
Hate to break it to you Pun-isher but literally everything on that list was developed or invented by non-Americans.
America should lead the world in innovation but sadly your best and brightest leave college and are hired by banks or megacorps who aren’t interested in innovation or improving the world, instead they want to turn a decent profit for a few shareholders.
The British invented the internet. Does that mean we own it? No. Does that mean we can tell you the go away? No. Does that mean we can brag about something WE had nothing to do with? No. So shut up and swallow your pride.
evil?? EVIL?? Jesus Christ, Japan was EVIL??? Is that what they teach you at school?? They were fighting for a cause they believed in! And they fought fairly! They did NOT killed millions of innocents! They attacked Pearl Harbor only because sooner or later USA would join the war one way or another! In a war, there are no winners, and there is no “good side bad side”. Grow up.
It’s called the Rape of Nanking. Look it up. 200,000+ civilians and prisoners killed, 20,000-80,000 women raped by the Japanese army.
The Japanese weren’t evil. But they sure as hell didn’t fight fairly.
Waited long enough so Prescott Bush could make his fortune dealing with the nazis until ’41.
A US company which I think made rolling stock in the US was the sole owner of a german subsidiary supplying the Wehrmacht until ’45.
1943? You’re off by two years. The attack on Pearl Harbor was 1941.
Aaron…Pearl Harbor was 1941, not 1943 and the same business interests that are always so eager to see us go to wars in the Middle East today were the same ones that pushed so hard to keep us from intervening in Europe because a bunch of them were making the fat $$$ profiting from the Reich
Pearl Harbor was in 1941.
umm…Pearl harbor was was on December 7th 1941…
Pearl Harbor was Dec. 7, 1941, idiot.
Prior to Pearl Harbor the US not only supplied the Soviets and Great Britain – oh, and China, with weapons, clothing and food. Lots of weapons, clothing and food. We used our own ships to transport it and our merchant sailors were getting torpedoed when the brits couldn’t put down their tea long enough to be bothered doing real anti-submarine patrolling.
We were in it while the Soviets were still Germany’s biggest oil supplier. Then when the Nazis attacked the Soviets, we supplied them, too. And lost heavily doing so.
P.S. Pearl Harbor: December 7th, 1941
Thank you
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It wasn’t.
Allies = Britain, France, Poland (Russia)
Axis = Germany, Japan (Italy)
Seeing as how most war games imply this, I sympathize with the poor fellow.
name one.
This version is a bit less of a “World War” than I remember from my history books… I mean there was only the rest of Britain (not just England), Italy, Belgium, Norway, Australia, New Zealand, China, etc, etc lol
Asshat. My dad enlisted in the RCAF 1940. Canada was in there WAAAAAY before the US.
How about where is Italy? Canada is just as awesome too though…
(then there’s also denmarkandnetherlandsandwhatwasleftofprussiaand-shot-)
Italy was an ally of Germany, till it got occupied. The Netherlands got occudpied as well. Denmark put up a good fight, but was never that importand. Only the swiss remained neutral (Hitler had no real interested in them anyways) and Norway was not completely occupied.
Prussia was allready a part of Germany at that point.
Denmark surrendered after 45 minutes. True story.
The Germans captured Copenhagen and the government after 6 hours, after which Denmark was forced to surrender. Except for the resistance fighters in Denmark, some of whom escaped to Sweden where the Swedish government trained and armed them.
And Denmark did put up a good fight all things considered. The Germans forced a Danish weapon maker to start producing a model of a 20mm cannon for the Germans, because that single model of gun was the cause of hundreds of German deaths during the Battle for Jutland.
Denmark was not prepared for the war. It’s a small country with a small military. And the Germans used propaganda to call it a peaceful war, claiming that there were no fighting at all.
I do apologise, next time I’ll check my history. You seem to be responsible for 30% of the posts on here; how is it that you know so much about WWII?
I read a lot of books. I even read Churchill’s accounts of the 1930s and 40s, which were mostly “Today we put in an order to 2 new destroyers. We built 200 new anti-aircraft guns. A German u-boat was destroyed. I ate pie for dessert.”
Ok, maybe not exactly like that, but it was full of rather random figures.
And everyone makes mistakes. However, before I post something here, I usually do try to look it up in a book or online, and double-check everything.
You’re a rare breed of commentator, the internet could be powerful a medium for discussion if everyone just did a little bit of research before posting.
kngr8ts, u cn red. i bet i cn red beterst thn u.
Not just the Swiss. The Swedes, the Spanish, and the Portuguese were also neutral. Also, it was planned to invade Switzerland to bypass the French defenses, but in the end it was decided that the forests of Belgium would be better than the mountains of Switzerland.
Prussia stopped being an independent state with the unification of Germany. Afterward, it was more of a geographic location. You might as well say “Germany occupied Prussia, Alsace, Lorraine, Normandy, Brittany, Jutland, etc.”
I know. -_-
On the 25th of February, 1947In Law no.46 of the Allied Control Council, the dissolution of Prussia was formally proclaimed, but yes, long before that it had become part of Germany. Making a point here, which I now know was kind of stupid.
*1947, in
So… Britain did nothing? Fail in a nutshell.
*cough cough* hello? we were with americans during there attacks on japan (i think dont shout at me if i wrong just tell me nicel please
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also if you say anything about world war 1 all im gunna say is defending and staying in a trench your entire life stopping nazi germany from getting to france well so be an ass
also if i was wrong about world war 2 then they did stay in the trenchs in world war 2 im pritty sure
I think he was pointing out how the meme failed and didn’t reflect Britain’s efforts at all.
oh sorry…
apologize to the other yank
Apparently neither did Japan. The way this reads, we just bombed them for no reason when the war was over. Nevermind the fact that they attacked us first, and refused to surrender until AFTER the bombs.
Actually, if you look at the comic, you’ll notice the FUUUUUU United States slide. I imagine the slide is meant to represent the Pearl Harbor attack. On the surrendering note, I agree with you.
Technically, the Japanese were actually rather divided about surrender before the atomic bombings. There is a strong possibility that they were about to surrender before the bombings. The emperor himself wanted to end the war, but the emperor by then was pretty much a puppet of the military, and some admirals and generals wanted to continue the war.
At the very least, one nuclear bomb would’ve been sufficient.
It dosen’t matter. The war was already over. It was just a matter of time until Japan surrended. The bomb killed thousands of innocents. Thousand of japanese who didn’t even go to war. It was not in order to force a surrender, it was a payback for Pearl Harbor. And it was like killing a fly with a handgun.
It actually didn’t for quite long due to Chamberlains appeasement diplomacy. Britain joined the war when Churchill took over.
Britain joined the war in 1939. I’m fairly sure that was the year WWII started. Britain did try to stop the war with politics, which Hitler took advantage of, but Britain was one of the first to actually become involved.
Britain joined the war (in 1939) a year before Churchill become Prime Minister (1940).
Great Britain joined the war because Poland was invaded in 1939, not because Churchhill took over.
So, how about Britain, who (proportionally at least) contributed much more to the war than America?
Panel 2: England. Isn’t England, like, part of Britain or something?
Panel 9: The Allies. Britain had something to do with those guys, right?
So how about Britain, then?
Americans are persuaded they were the only landing in France’s Normandie. Resistance ?! British See-air battles ?! America !
Hey whiney people! It is a freaking meme-joke, probably made by a teenager. It Is not a dang school text book, so it doesn’t need to contain every little detail about the worst anthropogenic disaster in history. Oh and before you talk smack about other people how about you live in that country for a few decades rather than make assumptions based off movies? eh paco?
Vas ist stoopid is der alles peoples whine-inks about AmeriKans role in der War vin das whole meme ist truly abouts Deutshland and deys huge failures. Ja.
If this is supposed to be german… it isn’t. its just replacing c by k and adding some ts.
+1
It doesn’t even look like German.
I speak German and I’m telling you: it makes no sense.
Yes it does (at least to people who has never studied German… which would be most people here?) That’s the whole point of that comment.
Das ist ein Grosses Scheitern. Sie koennen nicht Deutsche sprechen. Lernen die Sprache, Sie ficken Arschloch!
Hahahahaha. That guy got pwned.
(And oddly enough, I understood most of that, and I haven’t taken German in over a decade. Cool.)
Entschuldigen Sie mich, Keairan. Das letzte Bemerkung war völlig unangebracht. Ganz zu schweigen nannte ihn ein Arschloch. Es stimmt, kann er sehr gut sein, ein Arschloch, aber beschimpfte ihn als solchen in einem Forum in einer Sprache, die er offenbar nicht verstehen kann, ist übertrieben.
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Veilleicht sie ist Richtig, aber Schaffung eines beleidigenden Faksimile der Sprache brachte ihm es.
That must gives you an absolutley perfect veiw of people’s educational backround and breadth of knowledge! I must admit; however, that most of my fellow americans are idiots, as well as the rest of the planet. My comment was not only directed at you, but directed also at the other hundred or so whiney humans, who saw fit to make a big deal out of a joke, made by a kid, on a joke site (also the joke was titled in a nutshell) . I have to get rid of my web cam now.
Britains Spitfire was a hell of a wing and pretty much the reason for the loss of Germanys “Luftwaffe” (airfoce). Without the spitfires, bombing Germany would have been a sucide mission.
As far as I remember, spitfires couldn’t carry enough fuel for full cross-channel bombing runs to Germany. The germans could launch from captured airbases allowing their fighters to escort the bomber, but the British fighters couldn’t reach Germany and return, so they usually only went half way.
Although the Supermarine Spitfire and Hawker Hurricane did take down three times as many planes as they lost in the Battle of Britian, scuppering any chance of a German invasion and allowing Britian the chance to rebuild and prepare for D-Day (Well, they did a lot more than that, but it’s just a comment.)
hey now come on, they did other things….like taking back stretches of desert and retreating well from dunkirk…or….thats all i got
Or like resisting the German attempts at invasion (which meant that D-Day could be launched across the Channel instead of across the Atlantic), crippling the Luftwaffe, landing at Sword and Gold beaches during D-Day and then fighting alongside American, Canadian and European forces all the way to Berlin?
What don’t you people get about “nutshell?”
When the “nutshell” is IMMENSELY incorrect…
correct.
Montgomery did have a significant contribution in the desert.
germany united in 1989
The wall was torn down in 1989. The official reunion was in 1990.
I think it’s really great that sites like this can also teach people about history or science…(except for troll physics, of course)
I guess if you can remember all the years, you already know more about World War II than most people.
Well, the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, but the (former) GDR territory became part of the Bundesrepublik on Oct. 3rd 1990.
This is proof that public education is a failure before man and God. You should feel bad for having made this. I hate you so much right now.
What don’t you get about “nutshell?”
No, no, Anonymous is right. If you’re going to do this, you should make a 1400 page comic chronicling the entire war in complete detail.
Of course then it’s not anywhere close to funny.
http://angusmcleod.deviantart.com/gallery/71052?offset=48#/d17u1uh
A little longer, but still better than this one. Just doesn’t include memes.
this is awesome!
America and Russia are such beasts.
And no mention of Canada and what was left of Prussia… I mean in a nutshell sure but still…
Also, didn’t Soviet Russia help invade Poland? (and then got invaded by their ‘ally’ AND WHERE IS ITALY?)
And where are the fughts in Africa? And Asia?
They should call it: “Less than Half of the Facts on WW2 in Europe in a Nutshell”
Agreed.
Well, they obviously felt Prussia was too awesome to include, and wait, who’s Canada?
(please tell me someone gets it…..)
YES! YES! A Hetalia reference at last! *weeps with joy*
I get kind of upset whenever people personify countries and think they’re being original. And when the countries are OOC from Hetalia.
Prussia’s awesomeness is exempt from all.
…..Who?
you know i learn this from hetalia and they made it seem more funny and west germany was just called germany and east germany was called prussia and if you read this you have just become one with mother russia
… not again >>
NO. IF I EVEN anemoneING /TOUCH/ THAT BASTARD, I WILL LOSE FOUR EYELASHES.
and please, PLEASE tell me you don’t watch the dub…..
Okay, your mention of the dub is irrelevant and annoying.
*headdesk* Please don’t make us sound like idiots.
Agreed.
“ANIME”, anyone who does not know Hetalia now thinks that Hetalia is a stupid and inaccurate programme because of your comment. Please desist.
Hetalia is not entirely accurate. To appreciate it fully you need to understand history, not expect to be taught it.
Agreed, completely! That’s what I love when someone who knows a lot about history bothers to make art and fanwork on Hetalia, because them it turns out awesome!
lol this is great!
It seems you used Russia, not USSR map
seriously someone needs to learn more about history
… can’t not think of Hetalia owo;;
Was the US even in that war? It’s not like Germany was a real threat to anyone, unlike Greneda or Laos.
Anyone here seen Hetalia?
A lot, judging by the comments on the Latvia/Hetalia demotivational poster I put up a while ago on very demotivational.
Well, I posted this before all of the bajillions of comments popped up, and nobody had mentioned Hetalia yet….
Yes. after that it sounds like a love story. OwO
This is probably the best moment to include a joke about A-bombs in Japan.
Over 240 000 people lost their lives, many more still suffer each day from the effects.
240 000 people. Dead.
I don’t think that there ever will be a “best moment” to joke about that, do you?
12 million died in the holocaust, including my grandfather.
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he fell off a watchtower
There is a world of difference between Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Holocaust. They should not be compared.
One was an act of ethnic cleansing, killing civilians, the other was an act of terrorism, killing civilians. Both are intolerable examples of the worse of humanity.
Way to double the numbers.
But the joke was slightly amusing.
The joke was slightly amusing the first time I heard it years ago.
Jews weren’t the only people killed in the holocaust… -_-
There were also homosexuals, gypsies, etc..
No, 12million did die during the Holocaust, 6million of which were Jews.
regarding thing invented in the US the printing press and the car were not. sorry to correct you other than that your list is awesome. but here are two replacements, the band-aid and Coca-Cola.
Fine, I’ll play along.
“That’s funny, my Great-Uncle was a guard at a concentration camp. He died after someone landed on him.”
“best moment” as in high Moment Magnitude rating of the earthquake?
Have to admit, the use of cereal-spitting-guy there made me laugh.
There were a lot more troops than just the Americans in France in 1944. Get over yourselves.
The german borders before 1945 are incorrect!
Correct. Germany was a bit bigger before 1945 than it is now – mainly because the western parts of nowadays poland used to be German terretory (called Prussia. Ppl on this site seem to mess that up with the after-war “East Germany”).
Or don’t even know anything at all about it.
Actually, any kind of war, especially a World War, has a lot of stuff behind it. Trying to put in a nutshell is kinda stupid.
Belgium also considered it was entitled to a ”war bounty” and took some land from Germany.
Not like the previous border matched linguistic/cultural groups anyway, but persecution got worse after.
Actually the parts of Germany that are now Poland, Russia etc. were East-Prussia, Pommerania, Silesia and the Imperial Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.
Hm, i hope that´s correct.
Just out of intrest, what was Spain doing at this time?
they were begging the axis of evil to be a bff4e
Well, Spain was just being under a dictatorship for over 40 years in those times by Mr. Francisco Franco. Learn your history or ask Google and dont make a fool out yourself
hey noob, that was my point. Franco supported the axis, obviously.
Actually he did not support the Axis, Spain did not take a large part in the war. Although Franco was supported by Germany and Italy, they also received support from Portugal, so not just Axis powers.
look, the dude supported the axis. Google Spain and Abwehr. He was caught when the allies pressed him and he openly declared neutrality. Gooday.
I did studies in Spain. He was interested in joining but he didn’t do so officially. You don’t hang out with Hitler unless you have an agenda. He didn’t though, and after his death he actually gave some rights to the people before his death.
Killing their own people because they were eating too much Paela !
Neutral, recovering from the Civil War.
In a nutshell, they were recovering from a pretty dirty civil war of republican/socialists vs. fascists in which both Germany/Italy and the Soviet Union played a part by supporting either side of the conflict. Also many famous people were involved on the republics side, ranging from then socialist George Orwell, to Hemingway, also many german communists politicians etc. which is good because there is a lot of interesting books by famous people on the event (Homage to Catalonia, For Whom The Bell Tolls…..). It was basically a Stellvertreterkrieg (substitute war?) in which, sadly, all other european countries stood aside and watched the rise of facism.
I like how England includes Ireland, even though the Republic of Ireland was independent at the time.
I also like how Germany is the modern-day country, and not the borders at the time:
http://us.altermedia.info/images/germany1939.jpg
And finally, I like how the map shows Russia, and not the Soviet Union’s borders:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/SovietEvolution.png
So, all-in-all, well done.
Since when are strips on Comixed totally accurate ? Go back to your books you intelectual liberal you !
Here’s my source:
http://gocryemokid.memebase.com/
Go cry about it.
I love how you care about pointless, minor details IN A SHARKING MEME!
It shouldn’t even say England, soldiers came from all over Britain. Whoever made this clearly took a history class but skipped geography.
Where’s Holland? :C We lost all our bikes and ate all our tulips!
Well if Canada got ignored, then Holland prolly did too…
And what about Finland? Not a single word about how our fathers courageously fought alongside the nazis
Only after the Soviet Union, who was Germany’s buddy at the time, attacked Finland. And Finland didn’t send its Jews to Sweden. They fought throughout the war like every Finn did.
i absolutely died when i saw the cereal guy.
did ANYONE else notice the backwards ‘LOL’?!
NO SHrimp.
THE DUTCH EXCIST!
It’s probably an American who completely forgets most of the world.
Wait…there’s a ‘most of the world?’ I only thought it was just ‘murrika and the muslims!
Yes, Yes we do
So do the Belgians, the Italians, the Spanish, the Canadians,…
But that would make the image 2 pages long I guess:p
Pearl Harbor was in Hawaii ¬¬
counts to the united states.
So Hawaii is the one raging and the Continental US doesn’t give to sharks?
Shouldn’t it be “Das retreat?”
What is “nope.avi”?
Incorrect. Your wager…
*le more money than Watson had*
Negative score in Final Jeopardy!… LOL IMPOSSIBLE
As its “Der Rückzug” in German, it should be “Der retreat” (retreat beeing male in German)
I am learning… Must click the “X” on the upper right of the sreen..
*applause*
but you yourself made the point
why is america included and not italy?
italy played a bigger role in ww2 than america; america was very late to the “party”.
you yourself made it clear that this was written from an american perspective; case closed.
I’m sorry, i forgot the part where Italy basically ruined the whole war for Nazi germany by getting owned in North Africa and Greece ! Big part indeed !
Italy getting pwned and asking for help was one of the causes of the Reich downfall (attacking Russia and going for a CCCP city instead of another easier to win was another)…
But still so many allies and canadians (yeah, the same but wanted to mention) were killed trying to take over Italy by the South: they played their part even as Hitler’s pain in the as$
Just because we were late to the party, doesn’t mean we didn’t kick complete and total ass.
Market Garden doesn’t count.
And let the insults begin…..NOW!
Just because Italy was one of the bad guys who lost almost every single battle they took part in? Really? That makes them more important than the U.S.? So what if the war drug on and on, it wouldn’t END until the U.S. got involved.
yes but they were part of the war for a greater amount of time and hence played a bigger part in it; even if they did get they’re arse kicked.
statistically ussr were the biggest losers but you wouldn’t say they didn’t play a big part in the war would you?
unsurprisingly the war was made up of two sides! it’s no good mentioning only the allies.
the USSR maybe lost a s***load of soldiers, but they held back the German war machine for a long time and then STEAMROLLED them all the way back to Berlin, which essentially makes them the most badass force in all WWII. Enough said.
I can only assume you’re either really, REALLY ignorant of what happened in WWII, or you’re a troll.
Just because America was late to the party, doesn’t mean we didn’t kick complete and total ass, without losing once.
Operation Market Garden doesn’t count.
And let the insults on how i’m a stupid, unedumacated american pig begin…..NOW!
We lost several battles. For example, we lost he Battle of the Kasserine Pass in Tunisia, where the Germans defeated the allies, killing 6,500 Americans and causing them to rout and be pushed back over 50 miles.)
There was also the Battle of the Philippines, where a lot of Americans and Filipinos were killed or captured, despite outnumbering the Japanese.
The Battle of the Bulge, while untimely an Allied victory, did have some early victories by the Germans in early engagements.
The attack on Pearl Harbor could be considered a defeat, considering that hundreds of aircraft were destroyed or damaged, thousands were killed, and quite a few ships were destroyed or damaged. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost less than 30 aircraft and a few midget submarines.
There was the Battle of Savo Island, where several ships were sunk or damaged, and over 1,000 sailors were killed, while the Japanese lost a little over 50 sailors.
There was the Battle of Guam in 1941, though that was a rather minor battle.
There was also the Battle of Wake Island, and while we lost that battle, the Japanese did suffer heavy casualties.
And these are just major battles. There are plenty of minor engagements and battles that were parts of larger campaigns where we were defeated.
The main reason why we did defeat the Axis was simply because we had more resources and factories. Combined, the Allies had about 200,000 tanks and self-propelled guns. Combined, the Axis had about 80,000 tanks and self-propelled guns.
You lost a number of battles. Sorry to tell you.
Also, it’s been said, but I really wonder why there is no Canada. They kicked ass too! The germans had a slight fear of them, mainly from their battling in WW1 (Canada’s 100 days, 4 Canadian divisions versus about… 40? German Divisions, and winning for the most part) and we also got the farthest in German territory during D-Day
…Must…resist…laughter…
Border fail. Poland, Germany, Russia are depicted with modern borders. Did you guys know that 1939 Poland and 2011 Poland only share about 50% of their territory? The Russians stole almost half of Poland after WW II (now part of Belarus) and to compensate their loss the Poles chewed off about a quarter of Germany (driving roughly 15 million people out of their homes). Effectively shifting the whole of Poland about 200km to the west.
Ok guys, 70 comments, and not one taunt on France.
Internet, I’m disappoint.
I think it’s because Italy lost more battles then France did. However, I have no clue if they did or not…
Well France only lost to Germany (which nearly succeeded in invading the Soviet Union) and won a critical battle at Bir Hakeim in North Africa. Meanwhile, Italy tried to invade Greece and failed (so hard that it required a german intervention to stop the greek counter-attacks). Even tried to invade France in June 1940 and still failed while France was at its weakest in the war : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_invasion_of_France
Oh my Children ,get a grip. You’re focussing on such self righteous crap it is no wonder there have been wars for all time. If you wanna get yourhistory correct BTW you can’t just begin it in the 1940s or 1930s…there’s been tyranny and inhumanity immoral treatment of human beings long before this. SO go back…Go to books written by those pre WWII, before WWI. you’re all so full of school taught us this and no doubt we’ve learned this and that and jump on bashing countries…seriously kiddos…there is but one race…the human race…there is but one place we all live, planet earth (well except charlie sheen). And if people don’;t get beyond their political thumb sucking and pretending they know and own all suffering and believe one country over another has not helped yours a bit…well believe me…. there’s so much more to the iceberg than the part above the surface. And get it straight… canada was right there with the britt’s, the US was involved before landing there- …they had been supplying the allies and oh if that’s nothing tell it to all those who died thanks to the u boats sailing the very weapons needed to assist England- oh and genius, England attacked after repeatred shelling. But hey if you wanna just align the us against against those who attacked in Pearl ,that’s fine too…in case you don’t know the definition , it did wqualify as warfare- even Japan formally declareed that. Yes America joined against the insanity of the nazi regime. You think that the death camps in germany were the worst of it? Ask the 30,000 dead in russian territory in a mass grave -from this german nazi fanaticism- which was successful in the first place because of the country’s domestic tragic economy. Combine some lines and blame someone( cuz people LOVE to blame someone) and you have alot of cooperation from angry and frightened people. And yes Poland sufffered terribly- but if you study thre migrations of populations in this time ,you’ll find that Lithuaniaa (which went draen through the on again,off again russian/polish,takeovers vs autonomy . % wise Lithuania lost the most population to the evils of racial mass murder and “legal” racist murder. Sad that you’re still arguing over the details instead of growing up and learning from them. History doesn’t need your approval or disapproval for that matter…it only begs ywe all learn and grow beyond it . God help this planet.
Total Lift; Deer Retreat
tl;dr
That stands for too long, didnt read
Really? I didn’t know that
me neither! thank god he told us, otherwise we would never have known…
and testing out the swear word replacing… narwhal leviathan clam muncher?
Theodore Losavelt; Divided Russia
Jesus Christ on a stick. Learn how to type coherently and bloody spell.
Did your cat sit on your keyboard? You should take a picture; those go over well over at ICHC.
I did read. But I still don’t know what you’re talking about. Though, I think its, “Stop worrying about stupid details and actually learn something.” Or “Why are you people too stupid to realize that hared has been going on forever.”
Duh. We’re not talking about hating on other countries, we are merely speaking on technical details which is the only thing people that comment on these care about.
Y U give germany teh coolface?
Nearly interesting fact time…..The Germans had developed a bomber that could reach the US from France. It actually flew along the east coast near NYC. As a precaution the Mayor of New York placed Lewis guns on top of the tallest buildings, which would have done nothing. The US mainland was so close to being bombed.
If the UK and it’s commonwealth had lost the Battle of Britain, there would’ve been no base from which to invade France….meaning the US would’ve been next and by that time, Germany would have the atomic bomb.
I know, TL:DR.
Eh, given a few years it would be possible, but at the same time incorrect in parts.
For one thing, the Nazi leadership thought the atomic bomb was a pipedream and didn’t want to waste resources in it. Rather ironic considering they wasted resources in other insane projects as well.
Secondly, while the Germans did have many plans to create an Amerika bomber, none of them progressed that much, and were mostly canceled for being too expensive. Again, funny, considering how much money and resources they wasted on other projects.
However, if Germany did manage to defeat the Commonwealth and the Soviet Union, then they would’ve had enough time, resources, and the will to create bombers designed for attacking America.
Oooooo, you simply have to find the book “Secret War”. Was a BBC publication. It talks about this bomber, knick bein, how the germans tried looking for RDF using a zeppelin they brought out of retirement (They searched the the wrong frequencies), pilots being dissolved in the ME163 Komet, 10CM RADAR…..it’s a cracking read and most of it unheard of.
Looking into the advanced projects along both sides of the war is fascinating indeed. The Nazis had practical Jet Propulsion and Rockets, The Japanese where working on different rocket planes, and both the US and the UK (dunno about the Soviets, but they probably did too, just buried somewhere) had fascinating projects. (Note, only concentrating on these factions as they are the factions I know)
Thanks, gonna write an exam about this topic on monday.. besides, I’m german.
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Die Amis offensichtlich keine Ahnung von dem Krieg den “sie” gewonnen haben…
ein haben fehlt…
Personally, I don’t even know who you’re bashing right now.
Is it sad I learned more history here than in school? (pilot whale)*le sea beast
Yes it is. I’m surprised you had such a lousy school. The regular classes at my school in Texas taught quite a bit about this, and the AP classes taught even more. Most of the teachers loved WWII and teaching us about it.
Yes, yes it is. I mean, I knew more then this in the 7th grade.
This is way cool.
And lighten up. It was nearly 70 years ago. We’re probably heading into another one but lets laugh, not explode. Nobody like viscera. Not even Eskimos.
Shrimp you, this is not way cool, its retarded.
this is beautiful
every time we catch up on the european borders, they decide to move them, or change country names.. i gave up long ago.. i just cal everything russia. :B
So much to say, so little time.
I agree. Actually, I think I learned more from Hetalia then this.
…Me too, though maybe thats only because i couldn’t stop laughing in Social Studies BECAUSE of Hetalia. xD
This is one way of describing the death and suffering of millions of people…
Failpicture, the picture of germany is the ACTUALL germany. “Fuhrer-Germany” was much bigger, i miss all the eastern parts how are belonging this days to poland, russia, etc. They where called Pommern and Ostpreußen.
*ahem* Nutshell.
that narrows it down pretty much…so…why do we’ve such a great amount of books about that? I mean…it’s explained in a few pictures…
If you use this to base most of your knowledge of WW2 off of, you’re about at the level of an elementary school student.
Keep on aiming high!
nope. It’s everything that matters. The whole “kill everyone who is not one of us in a gas chamber” isn’t part of the war itself and never was. The allies found it out when they invaded germany, so there was no motivation factor on the USA/british side (and not on the russian side for sure). It was horrible, yes. But it didn’t influence the war.
Things that this comic forgot to mention:
Italy.
Belgium.
The Netherlands.
Denmark.
Norway.
China.
Motivation of the Nazis.
North African campaign.
Axis battles in Eastern Europe.
Italian campaign.
The entire Pacific Theater (other than Pearl Harbor and a single nuclear bombing)
Yep, none of that stuff is needed!
CANADA! You forgot Canada. As well as New Zealand and Australia and countries in Africa.
This is lying, Rossija won the war and conquered Europe.
Could someone please put all those comments in a pic, it’s very nice to read it
Poland’s borders were very different before the war. The shape it’s got here is the post-WWII (i.e. present) one.
they pretty much forgot the part where Sweden makes lots of weapons and sends them to Germany and stays neutral. And the part where they go unpunished for it. Floundering Swedish people.
Wrong.
Sweden traded and sent iron to Germany. They also protected Jews. Danish, Norwegian, and Finnish Jews were able to escape to Sweden and survived the war.
Not to mention that Sweden actually trained Norwegian and Danish refugees to serve as resistance troops. They had several training camps near the border designed just to train Norwegians.
And in 1945, the Allies asked Sweden to help them liberate Denmark. Sweden started preparing their armed forces, and came up with the clever name of “Operation Save Denmark”. In the end, the Allies told Sweden that they didn’t need their troops after all, just their air bases and radio stations.
And do you know why Sweden continued to trade with Germany?
Well, let’s look at Europe at the time:
http://www.fasttrackteaching.com/T_M15_Axis_WW2300g15.gif
Yep, they were completely surrounded. And they were sitting right on top of something that Germany wanted. They were walking a very thin line. One wrong move and they’ll be invaded by Germany. And they saw firsthand how the Germans conquered their neighbors of Denmark and Norway in weeks.
Now everyone go read Axis Powers Hetalia so you can find out how WWII got started in more detail.
Since apparently none of you can grasp history unless someone draws you funny pictures.
Exactly!! XD
Preeeetty sure Pearl Harbour is in Australia….just saying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor
Idiot/troll.
actually Germany declared war on the UK, but close enough. and I’ve learned so much more than this in my AMERICAN school system’s history class..
But not the correct use of capital letters…
Or parenthesis…
I learned so much more from a bloody videogame than this.
Germany never declared war on the UK, or any other country except the USA.
That is just plain wrong.
That depends on how you define “declared war”. Although the US might have been the only country to receive a formal declaration from Germany, they invaded Poland, the Low Countries, the Soviet Union etc. simply without bothering to send one, or wait for one to arrive from the other side.
I learned more from a comedy series from Japan then this.
Yeah why isn’t Canada mentioned in there?
Because Canada is often forgotten for some annoying reason.
I mean, I bring up the Halifax explosion or the Battle of Vimy Ridge (both around WW1) to some of my American fans and I get a “The what?” from them.
*friends
I wish Germany would win. Then I’d never be born or would have been born a slave who never ever knows anything about anything hence being mentally okay.
I hope to God that you’re a troll.
Uhm, Pearl Harbour was in Australia…
and for the sake of the ocean, lobster sea slug pufferfish arsehole
You are either a massive moron, or an obvious troll.
Shame i learned more from this than at school……good comic though
Creator of the comic (and 200-FIRST! commenter) here…
Dudes…. relaaax.
This so many dragonfish times, WWII is over, stop limpeting and moaning who did most or what not
So because it happened in the past, we should forget all about it and be ignorant? My late grandfather served in WW2, maybe I should forget about how he was almost killed by a German sniper? Maybe we should start doing the same thing about ever disaster and tragedy. After 5 years, forget all about it. 9/11, what’s that? Katrina, never heard of it. Vietnam war, doesn’t ring a bell.
Eh, sorry that we don’t like your half-a$$ attempted at nutshelling something as big as World War 2. I mean, there is no way any one would be mad at the lack of important countries like Sweden, Italy, Canada or China, oh no…
On a side note – I did find it a bit funny, so you can at least pat yourself on the back for that. Or something…
If I wanted to learn about WWII, I would just watch the Ken Burns documentary.
People on the internet adding their own two cents and “expertise” becomes even a bigger clusterf*ck than stuffing a feather pillow in a tornado.
This leaves out so much, making it look like America saved the world and everyone else just sat around and did nothing, waited for the US (also known as the world police and rulers of everyone) to come and kick ass in 1944. It also makes no mention of the war in the Far East, except that Japan got nuked. Narwhal whoever made this, clam them with a mop.
without the USA, great britain would’ve been invaded…just sayin
Completely incorrect. The British had strong defenses. Their air force and navy would be able to easily defeat any German invasion force before they could land in force. The Germans’ only hope for victory was to defeat the British in the air, but that failed because of radar stations (made in Britain), anti-aircraft guns (made in Britain), and aircraft (made in Britain).
In fact, the Soviet Union helped the UK more than we did really. The Germans exhausted themselves against the Soviets. Germany pretty much stopped the Battle of Britain because the remaining aircraft and pilots they had would be needed on the Eastern Front.
Britain declared war on Germany, not england
Thank you
Good thing Canada joined the war… Right? They did something… right? I can’t remember.
For all those people trying to say Britain gave more than the US, that is simply wrong. Britain was only able to fith before US involvement because of weapons and vessels supplied from the US. America played as large a role in the war as Germany did.
True, British territories fought in the Pacific, but the only reason they weren’t conqured was because of American involvement.
sources?
Incorrect. You’re talking about the Lend-Lease program and resources traded to Britain. Lend-Lease gave outdated destroyers. Small ships. Resources as in raw materials, not manufactured goods and weaponry.
And I’m pretty sure that British Spitfires and Hurricanes were made in the US. The Battle of Britain alone destroyed a large amount of German aircraft, and more importantly, killed a lot of their experienced pilots. Same thing happened to Japan. Lose your experienced pilots and for the rest of the war you just have inexperienced, untested, and poor pilots. Also not a good think in the late-war period with the advent of jets, and even less training time for German pilots.
Finally, let’s take the Burma campaign against Japan, for example. There were some American troops, but the VAST majority of troops fighting were Commonwealth troops. They and the Chinese did the heavy lifting in the mainland, while the Americans with some Commonwealth support captured strategic islands. However, we didn’t win the Pacific campaign by ourselves.
The lend-lease program also did not start until 1941, which means that the UK (and other countries) lasted one and a half years with no American support.
Technically, Great Britain isn’t even the correct term because it refers specifically to the island. The UK would be appropriate, but only if you wanted to include India and Australia, among the other territories.
The UK stands for The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It includes these two islands (And I’m not sure about the little surrounding islands).
It does not include India and Australia, or other territories.
This was more educational than any of my history classes.
I think I might actually remember this whale shark now.
How can the Americans say they helped anyone! It was their wall street crash that made Europe plummet into recession. Its one of the main reasons the Nazis even came to power, not to mention how badly it affected the British.
It is funny how everyone seems to forget about the fighting in the Balkans, even after they are trying to show how knowledgeable and educated they are …
How can the Americans say they helped anyone! It was their wall street crash that made Europe plummet into recession. Its one of the main reasons the Nazis even came to power, not to mention how badly it affected the British. And don’t say the British did nothing, it was us who were fighting in Northern Africa from the beginning.
Yes, I’m sure the Treaty of Versailles and the collapse of the Wiemar economy due to hyperinflation from the loosest monetary policy ever had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Just thought I’d pop in here after reading some of these comments.
I really don’t understand all of this country bashing. I live in the USA and am proud of my country and my people. Everyone should take pride in the place they were born/live. Every country has made their mistakes, their unfathomable follies… but, still with every abhorrent act commited there are many more wonderful deeds that persevere.
I guess, we all face our stereotypes. No matter how silly they may seem, or what little light they might shine on our own flaws… as humans I’d like to imagine that we can all see that as one of our many common bonds and divert our differences. Wishful thinking, I suppose.
<3
You know who else went to war? Brazil! We fought in the italian front with the americans. The thing is, we didn’t have clothes for the cold weather. >_<
my favourite (not mentioned here) is the “winter war” between finland and russia.
be very afraid… >:D
who won the winter war?
The Soviet Union won after losing a lot of troops. It was before the Soviet Union really finished reorganizing its army and as such was not really prepared for a war. In the end, their overwhelming numbers meant they won, though the Finnish really put up a strong defense. (Interesting fact, the most successful sniper of all time was a Finnish soldier during the White Death. He killed at least 500 people using a rifle without a scope. The Soviets actively hunted him, and tried to kill him with artillery multiple times.)
In the end, the Soviet Union gained some land, and Germany noticed “Hey, the Soviet Union kinda sucks…We could invade them and be back to invade England before Christmas!”
Oh! I really liked that one too, heh, it was awesome it’s own way.
Oh, the winter war was pretty epic.
Tino has hidden strength…
Introducing Memetalia. The racistilicous anime Hetalia in Meme form.
Ja, das kommt in etwa hin.^^
Finland won against the sowjets
If by “won” you mean “lost land”, then you’d be correct.
Best. History lesson. Evah.
Loving how completely idiotic and pointless it is that this group of over ignorant people decided to get together and try to start a fight over HISTORY, for christ’s sake. There are much more worthwhile things to fight about, let alone waste your time on.
Yes, because we can gain nothing from History, and from it being correct so it’s all a waste of time!
…. I hope you’re a troll.
next class world war 1
I say it started farther back.
When Italy attacked Corffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thus proving the futility of the League of Nations.
Oh, and sorry Hipster Hitler fans, Mussolini was Fascist before being Fascist was popular. Hitler was just scene.
Am I the only one bothered with the fact that Germany and Poland have post-WWII borders in that, while the Soviet Union has Russia’s post-1991 borders. Not that it would make the whole thing any less funny, but still.
I and several others mentioned it.
the wall fell in 1989..not 1990
These are better.
http://angusmcleod.deviantart.com/gallery/71052?offset=48#/d17u1uh
http://soso104.deviantart.com/#/d2sl6fa
Hey, Look Bruder, they got you just right in the last pannel!
-Prussiaisforeveralone-
HA HA HA!
STFU git.
… I.. I do not know what to say to that West. But watch your back.. I well be getting revenge!
And to think I missed you during the time that wall separated us!
Pannel 2 and 3 are swapped. Germany invaded Poland, nobody did shrimp, Germany attacked France, then they declared war after several months of idleness, but by then it was too late.
Lawl.
Why post when you’re completely wrong?
France and the United Kingdom declared war on Germany two days after Germany invaded Poland. In fact, France invaded Germany, but were pushed back. The only part you got right was that both sides were mostly idle for some time, since each side was waiting for the other to make a move.
well I know I’m showing this to my SS teacher
He likes memes LOL
MAKE historical meme and
GET 300 comments!!!
General Winter: umad Germany?
Or you could always oppose online censorship instead. Just a thought.
No. WW2 wasn’t funny. No, it’s not okay to laugh at 50million+ dead.
As Stalin once possibly said (it’s debated whether or not he did):
“A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.”
And just look at GraphJam, they make statistics funny!
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Hey, considering nobody making comments on this site was alive to see the war fought; maybe you should all calm down, shut the f**k up and get back to laughing at some other funny jokes, M’kay? That said everybody above my line is jelly
I like how everyone here has to pitch in on their pseudo-knowledge of something just about everyone knows about due to what? Many video games, and a ton of movies-not public schools.
Gosh, you all need to write a book on yourself. Get the ego out of the way and what have you.
Maybe you should too if you think everyone would listen to you. Yes, I do know how it feels to be annoyed at stuff like this as you do but I am sorry, you are not doing it in a way that makes me want to listen to you, let alone not hurt you.
*not want to
ffffffffffuuuuuuuu- I need to work on typing
I hope you guys know that the present Germany has NOTHING to do with the Nazi-Germany of the 1930s and 1940s.
And by the way, nowadays, most of the neo-nazis are from the US and not living in Germany.
You can trust me:
Germany isn’t a nazi country anymore! Jews and Blacks live without any greater problems in Germany. The German people have more problems with migrants who came from the region around Turkey, because a few of them think they a the greatest. They actually live from Hartz IV (welfare), they are dumb, they bother teachers and other people and some of them really think, living from welfare is the greatest you can do.
I don’t want to blame them, because there is the older generation, that lives in whose own community (they can’t really speak German and live like in the country they came from, but they do this without causing any offense to anybody). The younger generation (their kids) are the problems. They think, they are something better as the studying, working men (i mean not only the Germans, they mean everyone) and they can drive their BMWs and laught about everyone.
That’s the poor fact. I’m sad this came so, but they have caused themselves this situation and the migrants, who want really to live and work in Germany, are dolphined, because everyone hates them, because of the dumb youth.
Thanks for reading.
misspelings and gramarproblems make yu jelly
I enjoy reading arguments about WWI and WWII. AS IF you turds had anything to do with it.
i learned more with these 413 comment (ok i gave up at like 380)
about WWII than anywhere else in my life,the internet is truly a good thing.
lawl
TROLLS
im learning about WWII at school. thankyou
Everyone needs to take a joke. This comic was ment to be funny. Most people probably know enough about WW2 that this comic wouldn’t change much. Thanks for the history lessons though >.>
^ WIN
This has already been done.
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=world+war+two+simple+version#/d17u1uh
I know the atomic bomb isn’t something to laugh about, but I can’t keep a straight face when I see cereal guy’s reaction.
Also, to all this argument above… let’s just remember that nobody really ever ‘wins’ a war. I also see no point in calling one country superior to another because of its amount of involvement in a war. That’s the kind of shrimp that starts wars anyway.
I’m not justifying the U.S.’s actions, or Japan’s actions, but there was the forgotten Rape of Manchuria. The Japanese were brutal towards the Chinese men and women and needed to be stopped. Yet the Japanese needed to expand their country to China and the surrounding countries because they are an island nation, and need more land and natural resources that their country could naturally provide.
regarding the Japanese internment in the U.S.:
yes we did intern Japanese-Americans, but we didn’t kill them off by the hundreds of thousands. what we did was mean and unnecessary, yet even though it was kinda late, we did apologized to them. The Japanese-Americans were loyal to the U.S. They had no intention of over-throwing the American government.they actually wanted to join the U.S. army to fight against the Axis.
oh and i go to a public school in america, and we have learned WWAAAYYY more about WWII then this comic shows. so not all americans that go to public school are stupid, and not all public school in general are stupid. so just because i am american, AND go to a public school, dont automatically label me as ignorant. america may be in some deep s**t right now, and may have done some stupid things in the past, but name me one country that hasn’t
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i did enjoy the comic though. it made me LAWLZ out loud XD
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for Rape of Manchuria… brutal I know.
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This is the greatest explanation of WWII ever. All American history lessons need to have troll faces in them.
Agree – but then the kids would probably just laugh continuously and there goes your educational system…
England is not synonymous with Britain, it’s one of Britain’s constituent countries u_u
Technically, England is a part of the United Kingdom. Britain is the same as Great Britain, and refers to the island.
So, Great Britain/Britain = geographic location.
United Kingdom = Country
England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland = parts of the United Kingdom.
United kingdon is not a country. England, Scotland, Nothern Ireland and Wales are countries within the the United Kingdom.
The UK is a country, made up of several countries (England, Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
The United Kingdom is a country. It’s a sovereign state with borders.
Technically, it is a Unitary state, which means the central government is supreme but subnational governments also have some power, but only the power given by the central government.
And the United Kingdom isn’t the only country like this. Other examples include:
Armenia
Austria
China
Cuba
France
Ireland
Oman
Romania
and so on.
In fact, most the of the world are unitary states.
Denmark includes the Faroe Islands, the Netherlands includes Aruba, New Zealand includes the Cook Islands.
Hell, the website of the Prime Minister’s Office itself refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland as “countries within a country”.
And of course, the argument could be made that they aren’t even countries and don’t hold any real power, but that’s beside the point. The point is that the United Kingdom is a country. A nation. A sovereign state. Just because it’s a unitary state like most of the world doesn’t change that.
It’s a country within a country within a country.
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the face is in england. scotland is asleep.
From your own Wiki article:
“However, taken as a percentage of the population, Canada’s enlistment…represents a proportionately smaller mobilization…Approximately half of Canada’s army and three-quarters of its air-force personnel never left the country, compared to the overseas deployment of approximately three-quarters of the forces of…United States.”
“the bulk of the Canadian army overseas did not engage in sustained combat until mid-1943. Many of the young soldiers of the 1st Canadian Infantry Division, overseas since December 1939, could claim, by 1943, to have spent more of their adult lives in England than in Canada.” (This was 2 years AFTER the U.S. was already involved in combat.)
Got over yourself.
U Mad Canuk?
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as a germand, i find this awesome
Pretty sure the wall came down in 1989, right?
The Berlin wall came down in November 1989. West and East Germany were reunited in October 1990.
not shure if SU LOLd